Q about arguments for God's existence.

[Esquilax]

Ya, what I see here is a bunch of people atheists that hate christians. They like to ridiculize, tell how stupid we are, call names and no matter what we say we are lying. Don't know where so much hate comes from. I thought I could join in here and have decent discussion about beliefs but for them we are too stupid to even be here.

No no no, you've got that kinda backwards, and I see why: it's much easier to just pretend that everyone here is against you because they hate you, rather than that your arguments are a big load of bollocks.

But we don't hate christians just because they're christians; many of us have christian family members whom we love. My future mother in law, for whom I have the utmost respect and admiration, is a devout christian. No, what we hate are bad arguments, and the people who'll try to dishonestly sneak them in as fact and then refuse to acknowledge that they're wrong on any point. We hate sneaky creationist weasels who quote mine, play fast and loose with definitions and sources, and just ignore any responses they can't handle.

If we hate you at all, it's because if the dishonest way in which you conduct yourself, not your religion. For contrast, go back and look at the way the majority of the forum interacted with Jacob(smooth) back when he first started out here, presenting as a christian. Your claim is demonstrably false.

A lot of your other ones are too, actually. Your Trex claim sits refuted right in the middle of Talk Origin's "Index of Creationist claims," meaning it's so obviously refuted a thousand times that these guys took notice. As for your fiat assertion that carbon dating doesn't work (because you don't want it to,) gee, I wonder who I should believe? The scientists who've spent decades being trained in the field in question and who are subject to rigorous peer review whenever they make claims in public, or the anonymous, sourceless ramblings of a creationist with a history of posting incorrect things as though they were true, and absolutely no training or education in a relevant field?

How about we start here: multiple claims that you've made have been refuted and proven wrong. Yet more have been shown to be quote mines, or only a portion of a complete article, taken out of context. I'd like you to retract those claims and admit that you were wrong, before we continue. Accountability for one's wrongdoings is important, both in debate and also apparently in your religion, so please: you were wrong. Do go ahead and admit that.