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Death Penalty
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RE: Death Penalty
(July 17, 2014 at 2:36 pm)Chad32 Wrote:
(July 17, 2014 at 1:49 pm)Blackout Wrote: How about locking them up and putting them to work (not slavery, but rational ethical work) to pay for debts? It costs less and brings greater advantages.

Putting them to work would give them more opportunity to escape than just keeping them in a cell. I mean the kind of people I would say deserve death are the kind of people who do things you just can't fathom a real Human being doing.

If they have done it then a real human can do it, it's that simple. I don't accept the argument that criminals lose their humanity and rights because of their actions, as long as you are biologically born as a part of the human species, you'll keep your rights and your humanity until you die, that's how it works, we can't just create a special category of people and say 'these people are not humans'. Opportunity to escape? I find the argument of prisoners escaping insufficient, sure you could say any prisoner is capable of running away, but dangerous convicts are usually sent to a maximum security prison, we'd find a way to make them work there and pay for their staying and the compensation to the victim/reparation of damage done to society. Again it's not slavery, they won't lose rights, they'll just be put to work within human beings' physical limits.

I kinda favor the German system for punishing criminals, it works like this - The maximum of years in prison is 15. However you need to rehabilitate yourself, it is not an option, and when the time ends you have to be evaluated by a professional. Simply putting it, if you are still dangerous, you'll stay 5 more years, and so on, you could even stay in jail for your whole life, even though the limit is 15 years there is a certain flexibility to adapt to those who can rehabilitate and those who can't.
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Death Penalty - by Bob Kelso - May 24, 2014 at 4:50 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by c172 - May 24, 2014 at 5:01 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by KUSA - May 24, 2014 at 5:19 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by vorlon13 - May 24, 2014 at 5:26 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by rexbeccarox - May 24, 2014 at 5:37 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by KUSA - May 24, 2014 at 6:53 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 24, 2014 at 7:20 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Elskidor - May 24, 2014 at 7:34 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 24, 2014 at 7:39 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Elskidor - May 24, 2014 at 7:53 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 24, 2014 at 7:54 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Bob Kelso - May 24, 2014 at 11:01 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by rexbeccarox - May 24, 2014 at 7:46 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Autumnlicious - May 24, 2014 at 7:36 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Elskidor - May 24, 2014 at 8:02 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - May 24, 2014 at 8:19 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 24, 2014 at 8:46 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by A Theist - May 24, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - May 24, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ryantology - May 24, 2014 at 11:58 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 25, 2014 at 7:38 am
RE: Death Penalty - by c172 - May 25, 2014 at 9:36 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 26, 2014 at 12:07 am
Re: RE: Death Penalty - by KUSA - May 25, 2014 at 8:12 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Ryantology - May 25, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Bob Kelso - May 25, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - May 25, 2014 at 8:54 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Bob Kelso - May 25, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - May 25, 2014 at 9:49 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by kılıç_mehmet - May 25, 2014 at 9:10 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ryantology - May 25, 2014 at 10:03 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by kılıç_mehmet - May 26, 2014 at 5:21 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Bob Kelso - May 26, 2014 at 7:06 am
RE: Death Penalty - by LastPoet - May 25, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by kılıç_mehmet - May 25, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by kılıç_mehmet - May 25, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Bob Kelso - May 25, 2014 at 10:03 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by MindForgedManacle - May 26, 2014 at 1:58 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 26, 2014 at 4:24 am
RE: Death Penalty - by rexbeccarox - May 26, 2014 at 9:09 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Raeven - May 26, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: Death Penalty - by RaisdCath - May 26, 2014 at 10:57 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Autumnlicious - May 26, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - July 16, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by ShaMan - July 16, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Tonus - July 16, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - July 16, 2014 at 4:04 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 16, 2014 at 5:22 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Polaris - July 16, 2014 at 10:54 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by The Grand Nudger - July 16, 2014 at 11:13 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 7:06 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Polaris - July 19, 2014 at 1:49 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 17, 2014 at 8:57 am
RE: Death Penalty - by ManMachine - July 17, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 9:58 am
RE: Death Penalty - by FatAndFaithless - July 17, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 17, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Death Penalty - by FatAndFaithless - July 17, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 17, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: Death Penalty - by ManMachine - July 17, 2014 at 10:52 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 17, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2014 at 1:56 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by John V - July 17, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2014 at 2:07 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 17, 2014 at 4:43 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 4:47 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 17, 2014 at 4:52 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 4:58 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 17, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 5:08 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ryantology - July 17, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Jackalope - July 17, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - July 19, 2014 at 2:05 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 19, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - July 19, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 19, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Welsh cake - July 17, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 17, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 10:00 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Tonus - July 18, 2014 at 7:37 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 18, 2014 at 8:19 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Tonus - July 18, 2014 at 9:42 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 18, 2014 at 9:44 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Tonus - July 18, 2014 at 9:53 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 18, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Ryantology - July 19, 2014 at 6:28 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 19, 2014 at 7:27 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Ryantology - July 19, 2014 at 8:25 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 19, 2014 at 8:28 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by ShaMan - July 17, 2014 at 5:23 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2014 at 10:03 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 10:11 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 17, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2014 at 10:14 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 17, 2014 at 10:25 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Mudhammam - July 18, 2014 at 8:44 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Polaris - July 19, 2014 at 2:08 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - July 19, 2014 at 2:15 am
RE: Death Penalty - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2014 at 2:14 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Siren - July 19, 2014 at 10:14 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 19, 2014 at 10:26 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Siren - July 19, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 19, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by LastPoet - July 19, 2014 at 10:31 am
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - July 19, 2014 at 4:49 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 19, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - July 19, 2014 at 7:34 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 19, 2014 at 7:43 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - July 20, 2014 at 2:55 am
RE: Death Penalty - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2014 at 5:40 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 19, 2014 at 7:31 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2014 at 7:51 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by The Grand Nudger - July 19, 2014 at 8:30 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 19, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2014 at 12:07 am
RE: Death Penalty - by rexbeccarox - July 23, 2014 at 10:03 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 23, 2014 at 10:24 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by rexbeccarox - July 23, 2014 at 10:34 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Minimalist - July 23, 2014 at 10:19 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 23, 2014 at 10:38 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 23, 2014 at 10:39 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Chad32 - July 23, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Jackalope - July 23, 2014 at 10:52 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by rexbeccarox - July 23, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Jackalope - July 23, 2014 at 11:28 pm
RE: Death Penalty - by Dystopia - July 23, 2014 at 10:58 pm

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