Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 4, 2025, 9:41 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
My Youth Pastor's Pleading Letter to Me
#23
RE: My Youth Pastor's Pleading Letter to Me
(July 18, 2014 at 5:07 am)Amalynne0 Wrote: I want to repsond in a way that will at least get him to think.
...
I think I barfed in my mouth slightly. He's a genuine, heartfelt guy, but he's choosing to feel rather than think. How can I reason with that?? I just don't know.
As a recent ex-xian I'd say get him on his facts.

Here's an easy one:

"He chose the Hebrews to be an example to the rest of creation as to what it looks like to be in a life-giving relationship with Him."

That's true, the god of Abraham chose the Hebrews as an "example" to the "rest of creation", there's a fact everyone agrees upon. Why then did ancient Egypt have near equal rights for women while the ancient Hebrews most certainly did not*? Why then does this same god demand that Abraham be willing to sacrifice his "only" son Isaac to him as a test of his righteousness? Try this one on for size - there's been humans on the planet for at least 200,000 years and possibly longer, how were the Hebrews examples to the Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Indigenous Americans, Aboriginal Australians, South Africans, etc?

If you ask the second question the answer you will usually hear is "God didn't accept the sacrifice ..." or "God wasn't really going to accept the sacrifice" - in which case say "I didn't say that I said he demanded that Abraham be willing to sacrifice his only son".

*You can prove this point with the fact that God decrees male slaves serve for 7 years and then be set free, but female slaves shall never be freed - there is no great proof than that that the ancient Hebrews/Israelites/Jews did not have anywhere near the gender-equality of Egypt or Rome.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
Reply



Messages In This Thread
My Youth Pastor's Pleading Letter to Me - by Amalynne0 - July 18, 2014 at 5:07 am
RE: My Youth Pastor's Pleading Letter to Me - by Cato - July 18, 2014 at 6:47 am
RE: My Youth Pastor's Pleading Letter to Me - by Tonus - July 18, 2014 at 7:16 am
RE: My Youth Pastor's Pleading Letter to Me - by Jenny A - July 18, 2014 at 10:13 am
RE: My Youth Pastor's Pleading Letter to Me - by FreeTony - July 18, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: My Youth Pastor's Pleading Letter to Me - by Aractus - July 18, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: My Youth Pastor's Pleading Letter to Me - by ShaMan - July 18, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: My Youth Pastor's Pleading Letter to Me - by c172 - July 18, 2014 at 11:37 pm
RE: My Youth Pastor's Pleading Letter to Me - by Rev. Rye - July 25, 2014 at 11:54 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Church demands the victim apologize to pastor's wife since the pastor did the rape. Silver 122 24512 September 17, 2016 at 4:30 am
Last Post: rado84
  Open letter to hard line muslims lifesagift 0 1147 November 13, 2014 at 6:43 pm
Last Post: lifesagift
  Truth for Youth Diablo 4 1875 August 28, 2014 at 2:13 pm
Last Post: Zack
  Pastor states "religion and politics interrelated" Silver 7 3446 May 25, 2014 at 9:59 pm
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd
  Is killing a Pastor always a bad thing? Mystical 85 28950 November 9, 2013 at 8:51 am
Last Post: T.J.
  Fundamentalist Pastor Takes to YouTube to Fault Women for All Social Ills Ziploc Surprise 9 6128 May 13, 2012 at 4:26 pm
Last Post: orogenicman
Sad Christian Pastor: God wants you to beat the homosexuality out of your kids Miami_Marlins_fan 3 3368 May 3, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
  US pastor subject of lawsuit by Ugandan gay advocacy group Doubting Thomas 3 1664 March 15, 2012 at 4:30 pm
Last Post: Doubting Thomas
  Pastor to be extradited to Kenya frankiej 14 4083 September 22, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Last Post: Rokcet Scientist
  Open Letter on Evil everythingafter 1 1668 September 1, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Last Post: Captain Scarlet



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)