RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life
July 20, 2014 at 4:00 pm
(This post was last modified: July 20, 2014 at 4:15 pm by Dystopia.)
If a fetus was legally considered a human person, then between killing it and making the woman hold on for 9 months the parliament would opt by making abortion illegal, I'm almost 100% sure about this. After all our penal code forbids murder and our constitution says then there is a conflict or rights the most important one prevails - Since the right to live is first than the right to your body for 9 months, the first would prevail almost absolutely.
There is a difference between removing and plugging something, that's very clear to me. One situation is to terminate a pregnancy, the other is to plug a 'much larger fetus' (a two year old is a fetus?) to your body voluntarily. From a legal perspective, doing something and refusing to do something are not the same thing. There's no argue on that. It's different if I, let's say, voluntarily chose to hurt someone and refusing to aid someone who was hurt (damage non related to me). Criminal law distinguishes between both. So yeah plugging in a fetus and having an abortion are quite different
Quote:This would be intuitively obvious to you if you had to push a small boulder out of your dick- after hefting it around for 9 months in your testicles....but you don't.....so it's not all that surprising that you found a way to marginalize pregnancy.So I'm marginalizing pregnancy now? Sounds like a presumptuous assumption. All I did was create a hypothetical scenario if a fetus was a human person, in response to esquillax. I gave an answer according to my constitution/law's priorities, I never made a personal stance about it... And yeah, the law's decision would be the same if it were men carrying a boulder on their testicles, I'm not making distinctions
(July 20, 2014 at 3:45 pm)Losty Wrote: It is not a different situation. It's the exact same situation except with a much larger fetus.
The drowning situation does not compare nearly as well.
There is a difference between removing and plugging something, that's very clear to me. One situation is to terminate a pregnancy, the other is to plug a 'much larger fetus' (a two year old is a fetus?) to your body voluntarily. From a legal perspective, doing something and refusing to do something are not the same thing. There's no argue on that. It's different if I, let's say, voluntarily chose to hurt someone and refusing to aid someone who was hurt (damage non related to me). Criminal law distinguishes between both. So yeah plugging in a fetus and having an abortion are quite different
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