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Atheism is a religion.
RE: Atheism is a religion.
(July 21, 2014 at 6:48 am)ManMachine Wrote: I'm curious as to how you are establishing your claims. We know that since 9/11 there has been a marked increase in people claiming to be religious, including a 10% increase in Islam. When the former USSR, a republic that made a conscious effort to eradicate religion by banning it, collapsed there was a massive increase in people claiming to be religious and a huge resurgence in religious activity. The evidence would seem to imply that humanity still has a use for religion, that we have not outgrown its functions and that it clearly still has benefits, the extent of those benefits can be a matter for debate but the evidence speaks for itself. I strongly disagree with you based on the global evidence.
Perhaps we're talking past each other. The fact that people still convert to religion, though it typically involves a large degree of indoctrination, fear, and ignorance, does not prove its use, function, or benefits beyond a broader capacity that humans have for enjoying fairy tales and embracing any (false) sense of security, like a child who clutches their favorite stuffed animal at night.

Quote:The point I'm making is that blind faith can have reasonable origins. I am even going one step further by saying is that it is easy to see how blind faith can have useful evolutionary origins and can be reasonably seen to be a part of our evolved social strategies. You trying to split hairs on an undefined 'certain point' does not negate any of this.

You do not determine what I find rational.
True, I determine what I find rational, and these statements do not convey anything to me as such. Blind faith is contrary to reason.

Quote:That the most absurd thing you've said yet. How can any person's neural functions measure anything independent of any single person's experience with it? Everything in the universe fails that test.
Uh, no. That's sort of the point of scientific experiments, instruments, and all of philosophy, to establish definitions and understand concepts that describe an external reality which can be experienced by any person following the same procedure as opposed to reality confined only to one's imagination.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - July 16, 2014 at 9:22 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Umberto - July 16, 2014 at 9:34 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Polaris - July 16, 2014 at 9:45 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Jenny A - July 16, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Umberto - July 16, 2014 at 9:58 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mister Agenda - July 17, 2014 at 3:11 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ignoramus - July 16, 2014 at 9:55 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mudhammam - July 16, 2014 at 9:55 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Cato - July 16, 2014 at 10:03 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ignoramus - July 16, 2014 at 10:54 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - July 16, 2014 at 11:57 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Cato - July 17, 2014 at 8:22 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mister Agenda - July 17, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Whateverist - July 16, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mudhammam - July 16, 2014 at 10:43 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2014 at 12:19 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - July 17, 2014 at 12:23 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2014 at 12:25 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - July 17, 2014 at 2:19 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mudhammam - July 17, 2014 at 3:22 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2014 at 3:38 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ignoramus - July 17, 2014 at 2:37 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ignoramus - July 17, 2014 at 3:40 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2014 at 3:51 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ignoramus - July 17, 2014 at 4:20 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2014 at 4:25 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ignoramus - July 17, 2014 at 4:28 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2014 at 4:32 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Whateverist - July 17, 2014 at 8:05 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 10:02 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by FatAndFaithless - July 17, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Whateverist - July 17, 2014 at 10:37 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Jenny A - July 17, 2014 at 10:12 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Jenny A - July 17, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mister Agenda - July 17, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - July 24, 2014 at 9:17 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Whateverist - July 17, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Whateverist - July 17, 2014 at 4:47 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 17, 2014 at 4:49 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Welsh cake - July 17, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Whateverist - July 17, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ManMachine - July 17, 2014 at 5:14 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Jenny A - July 17, 2014 at 6:30 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ManMachine - July 18, 2014 at 5:32 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Jenny A - July 18, 2014 at 9:43 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 18, 2014 at 10:02 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ManMachine - July 18, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mudhammam - July 18, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ManMachine - July 18, 2014 at 11:36 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Cato - July 18, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by buddabobblehead - July 18, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 18, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mudhammam - July 19, 2014 at 10:58 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Jenny A - July 18, 2014 at 10:31 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mudhammam - July 17, 2014 at 9:38 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by psychoslice - July 17, 2014 at 10:56 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Polaris - July 17, 2014 at 11:20 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Jenny A - July 17, 2014 at 11:33 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Polaris - July 17, 2014 at 11:57 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mister Agenda - July 18, 2014 at 11:30 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 18, 2014 at 12:05 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Whateverist - July 18, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 18, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mister Agenda - July 21, 2014 at 3:25 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2014 at 11:01 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by The Grand Nudger - July 17, 2014 at 11:37 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2014 at 12:13 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Polaris - July 18, 2014 at 12:15 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mudhammam - July 18, 2014 at 8:30 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ManMachine - July 18, 2014 at 8:52 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mudhammam - July 18, 2014 at 9:58 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ManMachine - July 21, 2014 at 6:48 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mudhammam - July 21, 2014 at 2:04 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2014 at 9:31 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ManMachine - July 18, 2014 at 10:10 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mudhammam - July 18, 2014 at 10:13 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Cato - July 18, 2014 at 10:08 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 18, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by buddabobblehead - July 18, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mister Agenda - July 18, 2014 at 11:58 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ShaMan - July 18, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by archangle - July 18, 2014 at 5:04 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 18, 2014 at 5:10 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by vodkafan - July 19, 2014 at 8:46 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 19, 2014 at 8:49 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Whateverist - July 19, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 19, 2014 at 9:12 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ignoramus - July 19, 2014 at 8:55 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by vodkafan - July 19, 2014 at 9:16 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by buddabobblehead - July 19, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by buddabobblehead - July 20, 2014 at 12:22 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - July 20, 2014 at 4:25 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ignoramus - July 20, 2014 at 4:40 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - July 21, 2014 at 5:32 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Cato - July 20, 2014 at 5:51 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by rexbeccarox - July 20, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - July 23, 2014 at 2:32 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mister Agenda - August 26, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - September 1, 2014 at 4:26 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Mister Agenda - September 2, 2014 at 9:53 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Simon Moon - August 26, 2014 at 11:43 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 20, 2014 at 3:04 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by LastPoet - July 20, 2014 at 3:45 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dystopia - July 21, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by CapnAwesome - July 24, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - July 25, 2014 at 1:17 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by rexbeccarox - July 25, 2014 at 2:09 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - July 25, 2014 at 9:14 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Cato - July 25, 2014 at 10:38 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - July 28, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - August 26, 2014 at 11:31 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ComradeMeow - August 29, 2014 at 2:02 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Dawsonite - August 30, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by downbeatplumb - August 31, 2014 at 7:34 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Gawdzilla - August 31, 2014 at 7:40 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by rexbeccarox - September 1, 2014 at 4:38 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - September 1, 2014 at 4:57 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by rexbeccarox - September 1, 2014 at 5:01 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - September 1, 2014 at 5:24 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by rexbeccarox - September 1, 2014 at 6:28 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by mytmztroll - September 1, 2014 at 6:09 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 1, 2014 at 6:27 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ComradeMeow - September 1, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - September 4, 2014 at 3:01 am
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by rexbeccarox - September 4, 2014 at 5:48 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Zidneya - September 4, 2014 at 5:44 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ignoramus - September 4, 2014 at 5:59 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ShaMan - September 4, 2014 at 6:18 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ignoramus - September 4, 2014 at 7:55 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by Whateverist - September 4, 2014 at 7:58 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by ShaMan - September 4, 2014 at 7:59 pm
RE: Atheism is a religion. - by DangerousElf - September 7, 2014 at 6:02 pm

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