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Abortion/Consciousness/Life
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RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life
(July 23, 2014 at 10:17 am)Heywood Wrote: I'm making two arguments.
1. Future expected person-hood is one reason we grant human beings moral protection while past person-hood isn't.
2. A sperm has no expectation of future person-hood unless it fuses with an ovum.

No we grant human beings moral protection because they are human beings not because they might become human beings. This notion that fetuses let alone zygotes are human or should be treated as such is both new and modern.

Interesting footnote you might consider, we have historically provided some moral protection to past humans. Many societies have both honored the wishes of the dead in the form of wills and most have laws against dishonoring a corpse.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god.  If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
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Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by TheGamingAtheist - July 13, 2014 at 7:08 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by ignoramus - July 13, 2014 at 7:50 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Dystopia - July 13, 2014 at 7:53 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by TheGamingAtheist - July 13, 2014 at 9:08 am
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RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by rexbeccarox - July 13, 2014 at 8:51 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by bennyboy - July 13, 2014 at 9:23 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by vorlon13 - July 13, 2014 at 9:38 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Rev. Rye - July 20, 2014 at 10:01 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Natachan - July 13, 2014 at 10:54 am
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RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by The Grand Nudger - July 13, 2014 at 5:26 pm
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RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by vorlon13 - July 13, 2014 at 8:58 pm
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Thumpalumpacus - July 13, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Heywood - July 20, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Mudhammam - July 20, 2014 at 10:13 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Dystopia - July 20, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Heywood - July 20, 2014 at 11:00 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Esquilax - July 20, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Heywood - July 20, 2014 at 10:51 pm
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Esquilax - July 21, 2014 at 12:06 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Heywood - July 21, 2014 at 9:48 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Esquilax - July 21, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Heywood - July 21, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Jenny A - July 21, 2014 at 11:05 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Bibliofagus - July 21, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Heywood - July 23, 2014 at 10:17 am
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RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life - by Heywood - July 24, 2014 at 9:32 am
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