RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life
July 23, 2014 at 1:38 pm
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2014 at 2:03 pm by Bibliofagus.)
(July 23, 2014 at 10:41 am)Heywood Wrote: If in your mind future expectation of person-hood doesn't grant a being moral protection....then you should be okay with killing a perfectly healthy human being under general anesthesia. The moment a human is under general anesthesia...they are simply a piece of meat.....there is no person there....so it should be "okay" to kill that being....right?
Hell no. First of all: A perfectly healthy human being under anesthesia? Why the hell would anyone do that?
Most people under anesthesia choose to be sedated either implicitly or explicitly. And they do so in the expectation there will be efforts to heal the illness that causes the pain.
Also this 'future person' of yours has lived a life, made friends, has people who love the 'future person'. And their love is why these friends and loved ones tend to say stuff like 'I hope he gets better' instead of 'I hope he becomes a person again'. Sheesh.
(July 23, 2014 at 10:41 am)Heywood Wrote: Now if you claim the human under general anesthesia past person-hood grants that human moral protection....then you should be opposed to pulling the plug and letting a brain dead human die. A brain dead human was a person in the past.
Nope. See above. I also carry a medallion that has a legal document in it relieving anybody of the obligation to keep me alive in that situation. It's very explicit.
I (a person) chose to do so. If I wouldn't have the document I'd have implicitly stated 'keep me alive'.
(July 23, 2014 at 10:41 am)Heywood Wrote: I choose as my moral code to simply to grant beings with future expectation of person-hood moral protection. Its short, its sweet, and it makes sense.....however a consequence of that moral code is a pro-life position.
And forced labor for women who don't want a baby but are unlucky enough to get pregnant. But let me get this straight: are you really saying that we should force people into labor because it fixes the (mostly semantic) issues you have about "the future and past personhood" of a fucking hypothetical "perfectly healthy human being under anesthesia" and braindead people?
For real?
