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Anti-theism and anti-religion
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RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion
(July 23, 2014 at 3:25 pm)Blackout Wrote: I agree, but why a theist? Why not a deist? If I wanted to believe in a god without following the dogmas of all religions, I'd prefer the deist preposition since it gives me freewill. Theism always has the problem of god intervening with the world constantly. If you ask all people what god means, everyone will give a different answer

Actually modern deists and even some classical deists do not believe in free will. I was a hardcore deist and loved it greatly. Deism is built from determinism and proposes that god created the world functioning as a demiurge and created it so perfectly(it is god) that everything is a result of it's will. God is the master craftsman and the perfect watch maker.
Deists usually are against free will especially if they are not classical deists. Deism conforms to science primarily and free will is not supported by science any more thanks to the discoveries in cognitive neuroscience.

Liberal theists believe in free will but believe god intervenes but this does not destroy free will, it just destroys fate since fate is changeable according to theism. Open or Liberal Theism strong encourages free will since it also promotes Cognitive Dualism. Fluffy liberal theists assume that an immortal essence exists and they thus use this to establish free will on the basis of metaphysical absurdities.
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Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 20, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Cato - July 20, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 20, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by vorlon13 - July 20, 2014 at 11:31 am
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by buddabobblehead - July 20, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by vorlon13 - July 20, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2014 at 1:56 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Bad Wolf - July 20, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 20, 2014 at 2:34 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 20, 2014 at 2:44 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by psychoslice - July 20, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by buddabobblehead - July 21, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by *Deidre* - July 21, 2014 at 10:36 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Jenny A - July 21, 2014 at 11:59 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Mudhammam - July 22, 2014 at 12:17 am
Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Rampant.A.I. - July 22, 2014 at 5:26 am
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Esquilax - July 22, 2014 at 6:58 am
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by BlackMason - July 22, 2014 at 7:01 am
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 22, 2014 at 8:45 am
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Mudhammam - July 22, 2014 at 1:57 pm
Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Rampant.A.I. - July 22, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 22, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Mudhammam - July 22, 2014 at 5:08 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 22, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Mudhammam - July 23, 2014 at 12:15 am
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 23, 2014 at 8:34 am
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Rabb Allah - July 23, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 23, 2014 at 2:33 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Rabb Allah - July 23, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 23, 2014 at 3:25 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Rabb Allah - July 23, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 23, 2014 at 3:41 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Rabb Allah - July 23, 2014 at 4:21 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 23, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Rabb Allah - July 23, 2014 at 4:54 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by buddabobblehead - July 22, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Rabb Allah - July 23, 2014 at 1:59 am
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by archangle - July 23, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Dystopia - July 23, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Thumpalumpacus - July 23, 2014 at 4:07 pm
Anti-theism and anti-religion - by Rampant.A.I. - July 24, 2014 at 2:59 am

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