RE: Abortion/Consciousness/Life
July 24, 2014 at 1:22 pm
(This post was last modified: July 24, 2014 at 1:29 pm by Bibliofagus.)
(July 24, 2014 at 9:32 am)Heywood Wrote:(July 23, 2014 at 1:38 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote: Hell no. First of all: A perfectly healthy human being under anesthesia? Why the hell would anyone do that?
Most people under anesthesia choose to be sedated either implicitly or explicitly. And they do so in the expectation there will be efforts to heal the illness that causes the pain.
Most people expect that their future expected person-hood be morally protected.
(July 23, 2014 at 1:38 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote: Also this 'future person' of yours has lived a life, made friends, has people who love the 'future person'. And their love is why these friends and loved ones tend to say stuff like 'I hope he gets better' instead of 'I hope he becomes a person again'. Sheesh.
Murder is wrong because A)it robs a person of future expected person-hood. and/or B) It robs living members of society the companionship of the victim. I'm sure you will agree that a person doesn't have to have any friends or loved ones to be morally protected. It would be wrong to kill a human even if that human won't be missed by anyone.
Now I have considered adding past person-hood as a condition of moral protection. For instance moral protection should be granted to human beings who have a history of past person-hood and have an expectation of future person-hood. However if you think about it....the only reason whatsoever to add the condition of past personhood....is to justify abortion. It just doesn't feel right to add that provision to my moral code just so I can justify the killing of certain human beings. Without that provision, my code is coherent and consistent.
Yeah. But my question and the actual meat of my post was this:
Quote:But let me get this straight: are you really saying that we should force people into labor because it fixes the (mostly semantic) issues you have about "the future and past personhood" of a fucking hypothetical "perfectly healthy human being under anesthesia" and braindead people?