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Modern feminism
RE: Modern feminism
(July 24, 2014 at 1:03 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(July 24, 2014 at 12:49 pm)Blackout Wrote: 1 - By legislating in support of motherhood taking into account the disadvantages it brings isn't the State pretty much promoting the gender role than women are the ones who should look after children?

2 - How would we support it? I'm not a fan of affirmative action. I can understand motherhood brings inconveniences, but I care about the results more. It doesn't matter the reason someone doesn't invest in their career, if they don't, no reward for you.

Well there is lots of precedent for this approach especially in the tax law. I'm not sure where I stand between the two approaches. It just does take a village, but there is no reason it should necessarily be state mandated.

Well either it applies to all mother or we don't implement it, laws are typically made by the state (parliament, in the US case congress, senate, etc.). I also think these laws could discriminate and incentive some women to not invest in careers if the social and economical/tax/SS benefits were more appealing than going to work.

This seems like that case of ethnic and religious minorities entering college with lower grades. They may have less conditions to study, but should we allow people with above average skills? I don't think so, it's the only rational solution. The fact some people from minority groups became successful is enough to prove the possibility of it happening without affirmative action.

I also think regarding women and wages we must take into account general preferences women may have for certain jobs. For instance here in portugal, there are more women as teachers and as doctors than men, but university professors are mostly men, the same for CEO's and politicians, there is even a law requiring 20 or 30% (can't recall) of politicians in the parliament must be female. Men tend to follow more engineering for instance. In law school the tendency is now for more women and the number of women who are judges has been increasing. I saw a draft on the news last year, 50 people distributed by several courts, 48 were women
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Modern feminism - by Bad Wolf - July 20, 2014 at 7:20 am
RE: Modern feminism - by Losty - July 20, 2014 at 7:27 am
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RE: Modern feminism - by Whateverist - July 20, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: Modern feminism - by Bad Wolf - July 20, 2014 at 11:21 am
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