Why is Christ's death considered a sacrifice?

[Welsh cake]

WC, your manager buys you a drink and you refuse to take it.
This is the position those who refuse the price paid for them are in.
Thank you for the illustration.

You mean analogy. And no, we're talking about the purchase itself.

Not, whether or not we decide to show gratitude, that's another debate altogether.

You're saying because we don't acknowledge the acquisition, we should "pay for our 'sins' ourselves". How can we do that if someone else just paid for them?

All sales are final. No returns, no credits or exchanges, you buy it, its yours. The manager has paid for the drink. And you believe Jesus has paid for our sins.

It shouldn't matter to you whether we refuse to accept Jesus making amendments, this, in your belief system, doesn't negate the recompense itself.

The reason why you seek to contradict your own Bible's teachings is because it puts you in a very awkward position that begets cognitive dissonance. You want the blame for 'damning part' of the damnation, to lie with the sinner. You want it to be our fault. You want to believe Jesus is all-good and all-loving, yet the implication that he now OWNS all of humanity, means the decision to choose to save some, yet damn others, or save all, or damn all, is ultimately his, not ours.

You don't want to accept Christ is the one in control who damns people.

Matthew 25:41
"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Sorry, but your zombie lord, is just as monstrous as the old testament god. He preaches forgiveness, yet forgets to practice it himself whenever its convenient for him.

To be beaten to a bloody pulp with glass shard whips, having His forehead shredded by twisted needles, and left hanging from metal spikes driven through your wrists for a crowd of people that could give a shit...JUST BECAUSE HE LOVES THEM.

We're not talking about the torture he experienced, or why he had to experience it,. We're talking about whether or not this was actually a *sacrifice*. Now think about this please: coming back to life, and gaining powers and glory beyond imagination, acquiring all the souls of humanity, becoming second only to god, is, once again, NOT. A. SACRIFICE.

Only an insensitive and ungrateful douche-bag like you would say that's not a sacrifice.

Only someone who doesn't understand the English language like you would say it is a sacrifice.

For your sake, go back to school.

I bet a lamebrain like you couldn't stop stroking your own prick, much less your ego, for less than 5 minutes.

You're actually butthurt over this?

Do you even read fiction? You know, the stories, where a character dies to save another character's life? And stays dead because they've died?

No?

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Yes, I do.

No, you don't. Clearly, otherwise we wouldn't be having this discussion.

And, yes, those analogies fall short in some ways too. So what?

What do you mean so what? The fact that your argument is falling apart should concern you at this moment in time.

I disagree.

Oh I'm sure you do.

When someone does something heroic for others, the resulting glory doesn't negate the heroism. You're quite the cynic.

We're not talking about the heroism of the act. We're talking about whether or not its a sacrifice.

When there's a sacrifice - something is lost in order to protect or save something else.

Christ lost nothing of consequence in the scriptures, he's not gone, HE GAINED EVERYTHING. Do you not understand this?