RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
August 2, 2014 at 8:56 pm
(This post was last modified: August 2, 2014 at 9:00 pm by Cyberman.)
(August 2, 2014 at 8:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: It's quite clear you didn't even watch the videos, which is fine. But as far as evidence is concerned, what do you expect me to post? Don't ask for evidence and then refuse to examine said evidence.
Ok, let's start from first principles.
Acceptable evidence would be something which supports whatever claim you're making. Were I to claim that I have a magic coin from Atlantis in my pocket, that grants wishes, I have to supply evidentiary support for three claims:
1) I possess a magic coin;
2) It is from Atlantis;
3) It grants wishes.
I could easily support each of these by producing the coin, demonstrating its Atlantean origin, and granting you a wish. As you will see, of the three claims the first is the easiest to substantiate, requiring little more than a jpeg. The second is a little more outlandish; even if I supplied you with photographic evidence, plus archaelogical reports attesting to Atlantis as its origin, it's still a bit much to swallow without several grains of salt. However, though implausible, it's probably not impossible, all else being equal etc.
The third claim is more problematic. Even if I allowed you to test it by making a wish, you still don't know if it was the coin or some other mechanism, including coincidence, that actually made it happen. And even if I could somehow prove it was the coin's doing, I still haven't established magic as the mechanism.
Similarly for god claims. First pick what you want to establish, then apportion evidence appropriate to that claim. Videos of alleged miracles and divine utterings are not evidence; merely another level of claims.
Incidentally, what makes you think I haven't watched them, either here or before now?
(August 2, 2014 at 8:12 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: God is real because it can be demonstrated like the Bible says it can, which is why I posted the longer of the two videos
If all you have to support your god claim is yet another set of claims, ie the bible, then you need to work on what you're claiming and why you find it compelling. Don't blame me for your low standard of evidence.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'