should america support Israel?

[Anomalocaris]

Actually, Palestinian claim is greater because claims based on possession within living memory, which Palestinians most certainly have, is usually countenanced in most parts of the world.

So Palestinian claims can be processed within a context consistent with how claims are usually processed. Jewish claims can not. Hence unless one makes the claims that Jews are exceptional and are there allowed to dispossess others under terms which would be permitted to no other people on earth, one must give considerable priority to Palestinian claims.

The vast majority of present Israelis were born in Israel. So according to your own principle of "possession within living memory" they have as much claim as the Palestinians. This debate is getting futile.

If that didn't deter the first Israelis to notice that vast majority of Palestinians, and their fathers, and their grand fathers, were born in what is soon to be Israel, where as majority of the soon to be Israelis, much less their fathers and grand fathers were not, why should the Palestinians give much thought to where second or third generation Israelis alive now were born?

One might say Israelis gained possession through robbery within living memory. Robbery within living memory usually does not constitute basis for legal ownership.

Perhaps if they manage to hold on to their loot for another 300 years I will feel differently. But right now their so called right to exist does not have any sympathy from me. For now, and for many decades hence, I think Palestinians right to Israeli nonexistence trumps Israeli right to exist.


If historic oppression the Jewish people withstood should be brought out as an argument, then perhaps we could move Israel to Schleswig Holstein, or Languedoc, or county of Kent, or Daleware. No? Perhaps our tears for past antisemitism isn't quite even as convincing to ourselves as we would have them to the Palestinians, then.