(August 5, 2014 at 4:42 pm)Chuck Wrote:(August 5, 2014 at 4:39 pm)little_monkey Wrote: The vast majority of present Israelis were born in Israel. So according to your own principle of "possession within living memory" they have as much claim as the Palestinians. This debate is getting futile.
If that didn't deter the first Israelis to notice that vast majority of Palestinians, and their fathers, and their grand fathers, were born in what is soon to be Israel, where as majority of the soon to be Israelis, much less their fathers and grand fathers were not, why should the Palestinians give much thought to where second or third generation Israelis alive now were born?
And why would the Isrealis give much thought to that Palestinian claim when they were living there 700 years before any Arab Muslims ever lived there?
Your whole debate so far is grounded on the concept "who has a greater claim", and as I have pointed out: (1) Palestinian claims are easily counteracted by Israeli claims; (2) that debate is irrelevant to the present situation. If you think that 7 million Israelis are going to say, "hey, let's pack and go", you're living in a dream world. The reality, which you have failed to acknowledge so far, is that the Palestinians are at war with the Israelis since 1948 and are unwilling to give up their arm struggle, which is their prerogatives, but then they shouldn't complain when the Israelis bomb them to smithereen. The miserable life they have is of their own doing.
