should america support Israel?

[Thumpalumpacus]

Israel May choose to define the boat in such a visionary manner that Israel can convince itself it is always right, and those who point out Israel is doing onto others what it thinks ought not be done onto itself as having "missed the boat". But I do not see the boat the same way.

The real issue is Israel possesses a state in the land of Palestine, against the wishes of a Palestinians, to whom belongs the legitimate right, now dispossessed, to any state within the former Palestine.

To define one apple as an orange so one could steal it without in one's own mind contravening the general rule against theft of apples, especially the said rule is useful one one's own other pursuits, is disgraceful and contemptible.

War is ugly. The cost in human lives for WW2 was over 60 millions. Do you see Germany or Japan embarking in a militaristic path? No, because they learned their lesson at tremendous cost. Obviously, the Palestinians have NOT paid that huge cost, not huge enough to make them realize the folly of their decision to continue a war they have engaged for over 60 years. Unfortunately, the Israelis don't have the guts to finish the job: bomb Gaza until the Palestinians wave the white flag and surrender unconditionally. Until then, there will be what we've had in the past 10 years - a limited series of bombings, followed by a truce during which the Palestinians will re-arm and continue their attacks, followed by again a limited series of bombings and so on. I will not shred a tear for the Palestinians as they are getting a lot less than what they really deserve. Perhaps when a million of them are killed, those who are left behind will come to their sense and drop their weapons and wave the white flag. In that case only will talk of peace actually happen.

I'd argue that the cultural psychology of both the Japanese and the Germans had as much, if not more, to do with the turnaround those countries saw after World War II.

Additionally, with the Marshall Plan (and separate aid for the Japanese) we were able to buy their compliance with peaceful international norms. I don't see that happening with Israel after any hypothetical total defeat of the Palestinians. The upshot of such an outcome would likely be more hatred and violence in the long run.

I find it disturbing how many pro-Israel posters are willing to consider "millions" of deaths acceptable.