RE: should america support Israel?
August 6, 2014 at 7:38 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2014 at 7:57 pm by Anomalocaris.)
Bullshit. What Israeli self justifying propagandistic tripe. As if the right of the people in the territory of Palestine to self determination, self government and statehood, and not to have a foreign state explicit for the benefit of a different people than their own imposed upon them, depended on whether Palestine had ever been a single state in the past.
Most of the land was Palestinian. Most of the people were Palestinian. Had been since beginning of living memory. They didn't want a Jewish state there. End of story.
That their will might not have counted for much under British or Ottoman imperial rule is a historic curiosity, and means just as much as the the fact the Jewish aspiration for a state didn't count for much for 1830 years. So if the fact that Palestinian haven't formed a state before 1948 should preclude them form forming one and determining what form that state should take, then perhaps sad Jewish inability to form a state before 1948 should also preclude them from being allowed to form one or determine what form it should take.
So Is this the best spin you can manage?
If holocaust is to be raised as justification, then perhaps it would have been more just, to say nothing of justifiable, to give European Jews a UN mandate to form a Jewish state in Bavaria, or saxony, or some other part of former Nazi germany.
Most of the land was Palestinian. Most of the people were Palestinian. Had been since beginning of living memory. They didn't want a Jewish state there. End of story.
That their will might not have counted for much under British or Ottoman imperial rule is a historic curiosity, and means just as much as the the fact the Jewish aspiration for a state didn't count for much for 1830 years. So if the fact that Palestinian haven't formed a state before 1948 should preclude them form forming one and determining what form that state should take, then perhaps sad Jewish inability to form a state before 1948 should also preclude them from being allowed to form one or determine what form it should take.
So Is this the best spin you can manage?
If holocaust is to be raised as justification, then perhaps it would have been more just, to say nothing of justifiable, to give European Jews a UN mandate to form a Jewish state in Bavaria, or saxony, or some other part of former Nazi germany.
