Christians. Could you be wrong?

[Fidel_Castronaut]

So, are you really going to tell us that your entire reason for being on this thread is to just reiterate what a placebo is but write about in such a way as to subtly indicate that god is the cause but to squirm away when questioned on it?

Yes, what is the point here? Please elucidate. Because currently the only conclusion that we can draw from, what, 21 pages, is that people don't fully know the mechanisms behind the efficacy of the placebo effect. You know, that conclusion that anyone even remotely aware of the placebo effect can draw.

How do you figure i'm squirming away when i clearly established my position from the beginning.

My point was that faith healing was real and corroborated by scientific studies on the "placebo effect". Faith has absolutely nothing to do with God or religion but is simply defined in the bible as "the substance of things hoped for".

So how do you explain nocebos occurring during placebo studies? Or the reverse?

Placebos are not a defined mechanism whereby the wishes of the patient are automatically translated into a regression of symptoms or indeed a 'cure'. Indeed, as I've already stated to you and you ignored, the presence of a placebo in the absence of a physical active ingredient that causes the hypothesised effect is actually evidence of no physical effect. That's why double blind studies are conducted.

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Did you really just edit your post, in order to call me a numbnuts? lol

I realised I hadn't represented reality to my full knowledge in the post cited, yes.