(August 19, 2014 at 4:40 am)Esquilax Wrote: The point still remains: "the universe" is not the same thing as "things inside the universe."
The universe as a whole if it always existed you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened. Therefore the universe needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated by the uncreated Creator.