(August 19, 2014 at 2:29 am)revivin Wrote: Since atheism is false you would be correct.
Do you have any proof that there are any gods?
The problem with the cosmological argument is that it's set up in a way to conform to the presuppositional beliefs that you already hold. You believe that the atheistic view is that "everything came from nothing". You have a universal rule that everything must have a cause. You then assert that God is the cause of the universe to solve this "problem".
The problem is: what's God's cause? Sure, you'll say he has no cause, and then I'll call special pleading. You said there's a universal rule to make God required, then you say he violates that very rule. So, to keep this from being special pleading, you'll give God some qualities like being "timeless" or eternal. That way, he can exist outside of our notion of causality.
And therein lies the problem. Once you admit that you're fine believing in things that have no cause (as we know them), then you've gotten rid of the reason for proving that the universe needs a cause. If you feel God needs no cause because he's timeless or eternal, how do you know the universe isn't timeless or eternal?
This argument only makes sense from your loaded frame of reference. All you've managed to prove is that the Cosmological Argument fits nicely into your world view, and nothing else.
