(August 20, 2014 at 1:01 pm)Brakeman Wrote:(August 20, 2014 at 9:29 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Yup. Don't know what kind of world Drippy lives in, but in the civilized world, slapping someone wouldn't be justification for "placing your life square in the hands of an armed man".
So would either of you care to describe a rule to teach to policemen about being attacked while they are armed? Currently the cop is taught that he is not to let an assailant gain control of his weapon, so that any serious attacks on himself are to be met with deadly force.
How would you change the rules for cops? What rule should they be taught for violent attacks on themselves?
HOLY FUCK here we go again.
APPROACH MATTERS,
He approached them with the training of fear the worst(I have heard cops say countless times that "no call is simple" which means you assume the worst, even before you see the suspect. You dont even assume a simple traffic ticket will be that simple.
These guys didn't respond the way he wanted upon first verbal contact. Then the second part of his training kicks in. DOMINATE TO GET CONTROL AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
Which is consistent with what his friend said, "it was sudden" which means neither kid had any time to think about what was going on. Which means the COP jumped them.
AND AGAIN Brown broke the cop's grip and RAN AWAY. Now why would he stop running if he had not been hit once while running? If I got hit by a bullet I would stop what I am doing. He got it in the arm at least once running away. Brown at that point decided to give up.
WHICH IS CONSISTENT with what not only his friend said but other witnesses said "PUT HIS HANDS IN THE AIR" And when facing him with his hands up TWO OF THE SHOTS HIT HIM IN THE HEAD.
Now I believe the witnesses. So out of all the shots the two that hit him in the head would mean the one in the eye had to be the first to the head, causing him to be dropped to be hit in the top of the head while falling.
Otherwise if it is the "rushed me" story, the first bullet would have to be to the top of the head with his head leaning forward. Are you going to have me believe that after being hit in the top of the head he had the power to lift his head and get hit in the eye?
Now cops are also trained to STOP using force when needed. When a guy puts his hands up YOU DO NOT CONTINUE SHOOTING THEM!
You keep making it about the struggle between Brown and the cop. THAT DOES NOT MEAN SHIT TO ME. When someone is giving up you do not continue shooting them. Otherwise you are asking me to believe the witnesses are lying. Why is it the witnesses are lying? Because they are black? If not then the cop is wrong.
Now whose lying? Several people who didn't know either kid? Or a cop who has buddies who can help him figure out a story that "might work".
And explain to me why right after it happened no one was allowed to lend immediate aid to Brown, or that his body sat on that street for 4 hours?