(August 25, 2014 at 1:59 pm)Michael Wrote: I think if you're looking for the value of religion, then I would also encourage you to consider the social order brought by religion. This has extended, and extends, from the informal (culture) to the formal (legal). It is interesting that the experiments with a formally, and enforced, atheist social structure have, so far, failed (though I think the reasons for that failure are complex and are hard to disentangle from general failings of Marxism).
Hmm. Social order at the expense of the rights of women and minorities. Care for the social order in Iran or Saudi? Thought not. Remember the divine right of kings when the church propped up despots?
The secular democracies of Western Europe and North America have been the beacon as far as social order is concerned, and that's the way that other nations should go.
Maybe you like the Islamic State? That should promote social order, no?
