Question for Atheists

[Chad32]

I'm getting tired of the whole morality debate. Morality is subjective. Evn if it comes from a god, it's still subjective because it's still coming from someone instead of just being a universal truth. Morality comes from our need as social creatures to get along with each other. Groups need rules in order to coexist, and these rules change over time as society changes. Since we are social creatures, it's a bit odd that anyone would think it's ok for one individual, or a small group of individuals, to have most or all of the power. That's why dictators tend to be unpopular, and systems that spread the power around the group as a whole tend to work better for everyone involved.

It's not complicated. It shouldn't be hard to figure out. One ruler above all does not help in a group dynamic.

I don't agree. I think there are basic moral truths which transcend cultural and national boundaries and are, therefore, objective.

It's true that pretty much evry culture has laws against murder, but there are exceptions that differ from place to place. While it's objectively true that you can't go to any country and just start killing random people without consequence, there are times where this is allowed.

The exception to the biblical commandment is obvious when Yahweh tells Moses, after the commandment not to kill, to go down the mountain and start killing people.

Murder is universally wrong, but is also accepted in certain circumstances that differ between groups. Is that really objective, or subjective?