On naturalism and consciousness

[pocaracas]

Aye... neither is the mind as an independent entity from the physical brain.

We just don't know really. I'm not saying I think a mind can exist independent of physical properties, as in floating along in a vacuum of some sort, but that they may be interdependent on one another in ways a that purely physical analysis of matter and energy cannot account for, I think that is at least an open possibility until further loose threads are more tightly bound together.

Actually, if any of these views is to be properly explained by any model of physics, the emergent mind seems to be the only possibility.

Perhaps, but then is there a universal law of nature that says "when matter and energy configure into X, you get mind?" How fundamental to the Cosmos is this law?

I think you'll find there are many different X's that will fit the bill, at least 7 billion on this planet.

I think the brain is far more complex than we can account for.... and the way it works is even more complex...
Actually measuring all those inner workings might very well be impossible without killing the subject, so our best way to try to understand them is by postulating something and implementing that in a computer model, like has been done with ANNs... clearly insufficient to solve the problem, but apparently one step in the right direction.