Only man is fit to be God.

[Natachan]

The issue I have is how that hierarchy comes about and is maintained. Take our current system. No one is inherently better than another. No one grovels. Everyone is fundamentally equal. Yet we do have laws and rules. They have come about through a mutual cooperation and understanding (ok, I know that's a gross oversimplification). If a person in authority does something wrong they are held just as accountable as anyone else. Authority in a democratic system can be gained or lost by the collective trust we put in a person based on the respect they have earned.

Setting up a system of ruling with a set person or persons at the top who cannot be moved and who are set as infallible or above reproach is revolting. It is just as revolting as the concept of a god. A civilized person does not give to Caesar, he permits no Caesar.

I think I see your mind set. You do not mind leadership and rules but object to tyranny. I agree.

We should all seek the ideal man to lead and rule over us but not idolize him or her.

That my friend is pure Gnostic Christian thinking and that is wht I am.

Even after my apotheosis, no it is not woo, the ideal or Godhead I found, I set aside, raised the bar of that/my view of ideal, and seek a new God continually.

That is what we should do politically as well as spiritually.

My religion aside, do you see what I mean?

Regards
DL

No. You still set up a king in Jesus, God, or whatever. You set up a being to whom you are forever in subservience. You still are considered lesser than another. THIS is the problem.

I recall a fictional kingdom where the leaders rise through great deeds. They work hard, and their deeds gain them prestige. They then expect those who have less prestige to bow, scrape, and to even refrain from looking them in the eyes. This is the problem. While they might be respected, they demand treatment that lessens those who have not achieved. They insist that they are a different race than those others.

My problem is the idea of some demanding veneration. I give no veneration. I give no worship. I give respect where it is earned.