RE: Are Theists Illogical for Believing in God?
June 8, 2010 at 8:39 pm
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2010 at 9:17 pm by The_Flying_Skeptic.)
(June 8, 2010 at 5:59 pm)Caecilian Wrote:(June 8, 2010 at 2:25 am)The_Flying_Skeptic Wrote:
I think that what your arguments point to is that it is very difficult, if not impossible, for us humans to conceive of another universe in which logic and mathematics do not apply.
However, its quite another matter to assume that such illogical universes are in fact impossible. Why should possible universes be limited to what humans can conceive of?
If you are considering that conceiving an illogical universe is impossible, I must be starting to make sense to you. Woot. to any being capable of logic, in any universe, an illogical (a universe where logic or mathematics may not be applied) universe should be inconceivable.
(June 8, 2010 at 6:30 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(June 8, 2010 at 5:59 pm)Caecilian Wrote: However, its quite another matter to assume that such illogical universes are in fact impossible. Why should possible universes be limited to what humans can conceive of?Humans didn't conceive of it they observed it... the logic of a functioning universe
To function at all requires some sustainable natural, to that universe, law.
maybe 'discovered' and 'verbalized' are more accurate words than 'observed' logics and mathematics *shrugs*. remember that this branch of posts all stemmed from my response that all universes are logical to you saying that a universe doesn't need to be logical if there are no life forms in it.
(June 6, 2010 at 10:37 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(June 6, 2010 at 7:16 pm)Caecilian Wrote: A universe consisting entirely of giant pink beachballs is logically possible. Its not nomologically possible, of course.To be logically possible what we're talking about has to meet the requirements of sustaining life at least. Otherwise 'logical' doesn't meet it's requirements.