(September 8, 2014 at 3:02 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I think you do Brian. You condemn an idea with no good reason, is my opinion. I don't condemn you though. I think there's always a chance that you might see reason. You grant your opponents no such opportunity.
I condemn ALL god claims because science says cognition does not occur outside biological evolution. I condemn all god claims because we have plenty of evidence that humans make them up. I condemn all god claims because evolution produces flawed perceptions humans mistake as being real.
No i do not grant them such opportunity anymore there is a debate about the shape of the planet. We do not debate Thor making lightening. We do not debate Poseidon being the cause of hurricanes.
Do not expect me to use wishful thinking and kaleidoscope thinking when we have much better tools to measure the nature of reality.
Human psychology explains why people come to false conclusions. Just like you accept that the Egyptians falsely believed in their polytheistic gods. You'd like to believe you are not making the same mistake in your perceptions, but the truth is you are.
You are the one being closed minded and preventing yourself from using real tools of observation. Gap filling with religion and gods and the super natural is hardly new to our species.
There is nothing wrong at all accepting that "all this" not only does not need a god, on top of that there is no evidence for one. Religion did not get us to the moon, or create the computer you are responding to me with. Science did that.
Science in the future will give us answers to what we do not know now. Religion however, will do what it always does, adapt through marketing not facts to back up their claims.
Now I am being completely fair to you because I make the same challenge to you that I do of anyone with any type of super natural or god claim. Get your claims to the patent office and win a Nobel Prize then you'll have something everyone can use. But it is not my job to do your homework for you.