Why intelligent design "proofs" are pointless

[robvalue]

Ok thanks Shaman

Sure, I don't for a minute accept the arguments. My point is that their goal is not achievable, so trying to make any argument along these lines are pointless. I'm kind of saying that even if you find the key you are looking for, it won't open the door you think it will.

I'm trying to get them to give up on the whole line of inquiry. Instead of finding more and more stupid ways to try and make the argument work, accept that it can't ever lead to the conclusion they want anyway.

I feel that if enough logical blows land, a few people at least may start to question things.