(September 13, 2014 at 9:47 am)fr0d0 Wrote: @ Brian : you are the one insisting on a physically extant God who is not physically extant. To me that's beyond belief. Like the hunt for square circles. How do you keep on with that?
If your god affects reality then there must be some physical manifestation, and if there is a physical manifestation then we should be able to detect and measure it.
(September 13, 2014 at 9:47 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I don't know how many times I've said this in this thread for you to keep on ignoring it: religion is not science. I don't replace any of my understanding of science with my belief in God. Can I get a confirmation that you acknowledge that I've said that? I'm sick of repeating it.
No, you just ignore the parts of the bible where it's impossible.
(September 13, 2014 at 9:47 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Progress in scientific knowledge doesn't change belief in God one little bit. It isn't the same subject. Understanding the universe and how it runs is not the subject of religion.
People don't believe in Thor any more because we know what causes thunder and lightning.
(September 13, 2014 at 9:47 am)fr0d0 Wrote: There is a point to religion, and scientific enquiry isn't it. I can't quite believe that has to be said to an adult. The point to religion is meaning and purpose. To improve your life by practical and sound knowledge.
Practical knowledge? Yea like how to burn a witch at the stake, the correct way to stone homosexuals, the best way to slaughter an entire village for not believing the same as you.
(September 13, 2014 at 9:47 am)fr0d0 Wrote: What we have today is the misplaced faith in science to provide that knowledge, and of course science makes no comment on it.
Demonstrate that the information that that knowledge pertains to, exists.
(September 13, 2014 at 9:47 am)fr0d0 Wrote: How ignorant are we thinking we're so much better yet failing so badly.
Better? Better than who? Than what?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
