(September 13, 2014 at 9:47 am)fr0d0 Wrote: @ Brian : you are the one insisting on a physically extant God who is not physically extant. To me that's beyond belief. Like the hunt for square circles. How do you keep on with that?
I don't know how many times I've said this in this thread for you to keep on ignoring it: religion is not science. I don't replace any of my understanding of science with my belief in God. Can I get a confirmation that you acknowledge that I've said that? I'm sick of repeating it.
Progress in scientific knowledge doesn't change belief in God one little bit. It isn't the same subject. Understanding the universe and how it runs is not the subject of religion.
There is a point to religion, and scientific enquiry isn't it. I can't quite believe that has to be said to an adult. The point to religion is meaning and purpose. To improve your life by practical and sound knowledge.
What we have today is the misplaced faith in science to provide that knowledge, and of course science makes no comment on it.
How ignorant are we thinking we're so much better yet failing so badly.
Your stupid logic "You can't see air but you know it exists".
At one time humans did not know scientifically what caused hurricanes but you don't stupidly postulate Poseidon. Humans also did not know what caused lightening but you don't fill in that gap with Thor.
Scientific method is the opposite of faith. It demands the rigors of observation, testing and peer review. "Faith" is not a methodology anymore than believing in Santa explains where presents come from in reality.
Scientific method is why physics is accepted and why Newton gave up on alchemy. One worked and the other did not.
"Faith" in a god or a religion only proves our species can falsely group around flawed perceptions. It cannot nor ever should be equated to universal methodology of scientific method.
Ethical scientists when proven wrong do not see that as a threat to their ego, they see it as a learning opportunity. "Faith" in religion however is a sugar pill with the dangerous side effect of humans demanding taboos and defending the club. It is our species reflection of childish narcissism.
FUCK FAITH. It does not deserve a pedestal nor should it ever be free from being offended or be free from criticism. There is a huge difference between legal rights and human rights, and credibility of ANY sentence that comes out of your mouth.
FAITH IS FAITH IS FAITH, be it belief in Ra or Osirus or Thor or Vishnu or Mormon or Voodoo or Hindu. It is no different than a kid literally believing in Santa as a kid. Faith takes no brains to swallow. QUESTIONING and TESTING to insure quality of data is what takes brains.