(September 14, 2014 at 6:01 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(September 14, 2014 at 3:47 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I'll just dismiss the belief out of hand until you can demonstrate the existence of the immaterial, and that god belongs in that set.Here is an example of something immaterial: a hole.
What is your objection now?
Oh, you got me. I now believe that god is a hole.

Two things jump out at me, the first being that a hole is not immaterial. By definition it requires a boundary around it of physical things to be a hole, the edges of the hole... unless you consider any empty space to be a hole, in which case you'd better be careful you don't fall into the hole in the middle of your room. But outside of mangling definitions beyond all sense, a hole requires a physical presence to be contrasted against to exist.
The second thing is that even a hole isn't immaterial by necessity. You can have a hole filled with anything and it'd still be a hole, because a hole isn't defined by the absence of material but by being a pit or gap demarcated in the structure of a given material entity.
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