(September 15, 2014 at 10:18 am)sswhateverlove Wrote:Quote:That's all fun, but where did the designer come from?
It's either a natural process (like evolution) or you have an infinite regress.
Putting those perspectives together, in our experience of reality (can't make any assumptions beyond this), I would speculate that consciousness is the designer and the designed. Consciousness is the creator and the created. Mind and matter are the same, wherefore reality and intelligence are intrinsically entwined.
And what was the universe doing for the 13.7 billion years before our consciousness emerged?

The idea that our consciousness makes reality is incoherent.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.