RE: Let's answer CARM's Questions for Atheists
September 15, 2014 at 6:10 pm
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2014 at 6:14 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(September 14, 2014 at 6:01 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(September 14, 2014 at 3:47 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I'll just dismiss the belief out of hand until you can demonstrate the existence of the immaterial, and that god belongs in that set.Here is an example of something immaterial: a hole.
What is your objection now?
A hollow place in a solid body or surface. What's immaterial about it, it doesn't exist without material to exist in.
(September 14, 2014 at 11:30 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(September 14, 2014 at 6:21 pm)ShaMan Wrote: A hole is not defined by what it is not, a hole is defined as the absence of that which surrounds it, which is.Yes, the hole is defined by what surrounds it, but the hole itself is not the same as that which surrounds it. The point is that Esquilax asked for something that is intrinsically immaterial. A hole is known with respect to something material but is not itself material. Thus it is possible to know about something that is indeed immaterial through observation of something that is material. If however you insist that holes are just convenient fictions and do not really exist then that makes you an a-hole, now doesn't it?
Can you give an example of a hole filled with something immaterial?
You really should have gone with something more abstract here, if the game is to make us come up with material explanations for stuff.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.