Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 22, 2025, 11:33 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism
(September 16, 2014 at 7:53 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: So again, I posed a question to you all (particularly those who accused me of strawmanning) asking about your level of confidence (0-100%) that there is no intriguing evidence pointing to intelligent design and influence. Only a few have responded, both reporting 100% confidence.
That's a curious way to word the question, but perhaps it's the more accurate way as well. I think that "intriguing evidence" is probably a placeholder for "emotion." I find that the argument from design is more emotional than rational, and given to the sort of sloppy and hopeful arguments that you've been putting forth in the various topics you've started.

So no, I don't find that there is any "intriguing evidence pointing to intelligent design." I am more likely to be swayed by a rational or logical argument than by an emotional one. But even that might only reduce the certainty by a few points, unless you have an argument or evidence that is compelling enough to overturn everything I happen to know or understand. You don't seem to, and "but what if this" is not compelling.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by sswhateverlove - September 11, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Exian - September 11, 2014 at 12:13 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 11, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Exian - September 11, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Anomalocaris - September 11, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Lucanus - September 11, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 11, 2014 at 1:24 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Esquilax - September 11, 2014 at 1:25 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Bad Wolf - September 11, 2014 at 12:29 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by JesusHChrist - September 11, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 11, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Esquilax - September 11, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Tonus - September 11, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 11, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Esquilax - September 11, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Tonus - September 11, 2014 at 3:56 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Esquilax - September 11, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 11, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by DramaQueen - September 11, 2014 at 12:58 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mudhammam - September 11, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Exian - September 11, 2014 at 1:02 pm
Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Bibliofagus - September 11, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 11, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Exian - September 11, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Minimalist - September 11, 2014 at 1:29 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Esquilax - September 11, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 11, 2014 at 2:41 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 11, 2014 at 1:30 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Exian - September 11, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 11, 2014 at 2:26 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by bennyboy - September 11, 2014 at 10:46 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mudhammam - September 11, 2014 at 11:57 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mudhammam - September 12, 2014 at 12:11 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Esquilax - September 12, 2014 at 12:20 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Esquilax - September 11, 2014 at 11:48 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Esquilax - September 12, 2014 at 12:07 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Tonus - September 12, 2014 at 8:26 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by TaraJo - September 11, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by DramaQueen - September 11, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Bad Wolf - September 11, 2014 at 2:19 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by DramaQueen - September 11, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 11, 2014 at 2:38 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mudhammam - September 11, 2014 at 3:48 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 11, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by ShaMan - September 11, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by ManMachine - September 11, 2014 at 4:50 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by tjakey - September 11, 2014 at 5:12 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 11, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by ShaMan - September 11, 2014 at 7:23 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by bennyboy - September 11, 2014 at 7:33 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by TaraJo - September 11, 2014 at 7:47 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mudhammam - September 12, 2014 at 12:02 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mudhammam - September 12, 2014 at 12:25 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 12, 2014 at 2:02 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mudhammam - September 12, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Esquilax - September 12, 2014 at 4:55 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Esquilax - September 12, 2014 at 8:16 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Chas - September 12, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Esquilax - September 12, 2014 at 11:26 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by TaraJo - September 12, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by ShaMan - September 12, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 12, 2014 at 12:31 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 12, 2014 at 2:29 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 12, 2014 at 3:06 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mr Greene - September 12, 2014 at 8:51 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 12, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 12, 2014 at 1:27 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Chas - September 15, 2014 at 9:45 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Chas - September 15, 2014 at 11:49 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Chas - September 15, 2014 at 12:16 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by ShaMan - September 14, 2014 at 8:54 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by SteelCurtain - September 14, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by ShaMan - September 14, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mudhammam - September 14, 2014 at 10:05 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Anomalocaris - September 15, 2014 at 10:12 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Anomalocaris - September 15, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Chas - September 15, 2014 at 11:38 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Chas - September 16, 2014 at 7:06 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 16, 2014 at 1:32 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by psychoslice - September 16, 2014 at 12:32 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by psychoslice - September 16, 2014 at 12:49 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by psychoslice - September 16, 2014 at 12:58 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by psychoslice - September 16, 2014 at 1:12 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by psychoslice - September 16, 2014 at 1:18 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by psychoslice - September 16, 2014 at 1:42 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by ShaMan - September 16, 2014 at 1:45 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by psychoslice - September 16, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by psychoslice - September 16, 2014 at 1:57 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by psychoslice - September 16, 2014 at 2:11 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by psychoslice - September 16, 2014 at 2:18 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by psychoslice - September 16, 2014 at 2:23 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mr Greene - September 16, 2014 at 8:58 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mr Greene - September 16, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 16, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Chas - September 16, 2014 at 4:28 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 16, 2014 at 6:46 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by DramaQueen - September 16, 2014 at 9:47 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by JesusHChrist - September 16, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Jackalope - September 16, 2014 at 8:19 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 16, 2014 at 10:49 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Tonus - September 17, 2014 at 9:04 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by bennyboy - September 17, 2014 at 10:12 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by RobbyPants - September 17, 2014 at 10:26 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by fr0d0 - September 17, 2014 at 7:02 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mr Greene - September 18, 2014 at 9:09 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mudhammam - September 16, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by The Valkyrie - September 16, 2014 at 11:07 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by fr0d0 - September 17, 2014 at 7:41 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 17, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by JesusHChrist - September 17, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 18, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 18, 2014 at 12:07 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Mr Greene - September 20, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 18, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Chas - September 18, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Jackalope - September 18, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 18, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by fr0d0 - September 18, 2014 at 1:22 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2014 at 12:50 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 18, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 18, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 18, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 18, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by LastPoet - September 18, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Chas - September 18, 2014 at 1:56 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Jackalope - September 18, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Jackalope - September 18, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Jackalope - September 18, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Jackalope - September 18, 2014 at 4:16 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Jackalope - September 18, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Jackalope - September 18, 2014 at 6:19 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 19, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by fr0d0 - September 18, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2014 at 1:53 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 18, 2014 at 1:56 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2014 at 2:21 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Chas - September 18, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Chas - September 18, 2014 at 6:24 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Jackalope - September 18, 2014 at 8:48 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 18, 2014 at 2:25 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 18, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Simon Moon - September 18, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Surgenator - September 18, 2014 at 3:21 pm
Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Bibliofagus - September 18, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by LastPoet - September 18, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by fr0d0 - September 18, 2014 at 1:56 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Tonus - September 18, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by fr0d0 - September 18, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Cyberman - September 18, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: Atheistic Dogma- Scientific Fundamentalism - by Whateverist - September 20, 2014 at 3:49 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Fine Tuning Principle: Devastating Disproof and Scientific Refutation of Atheism. Nishant Xavier 97 14879 September 20, 2023 at 1:31 pm
Last Post: Silver
  A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.) Frank Apisa 252 32184 June 30, 2021 at 6:51 pm
Last Post: Rahn127
  [Serious] Atheist Dogma Prof.Lunaphiles 296 39789 April 23, 2020 at 10:39 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Atheistic calendar Interaktive 38 5712 December 26, 2019 at 3:43 pm
Last Post: Brian37
  Make up your own atheistic quote Transcended Dimensions 56 12994 October 30, 2017 at 9:04 am
Last Post: brewer
  One more dogma to add to the rest. Little Rik 102 30588 August 30, 2017 at 9:45 pm
Last Post: mordant
  Could Gods hypothetically be atheistic scientists? causal code 5 3160 August 24, 2017 at 12:17 am
Last Post: Astonished
  Atheistic religions Der/die AtheistIn 21 8220 August 10, 2017 at 1:36 pm
Last Post: Harry Nevis
  Study finds link between brain damage and fundamentalism drfuzzy 13 5129 May 16, 2017 at 3:46 am
Last Post: Little lunch
  Are there any scientific books or studies that explain what makes a person religious? WisdomOfTheTrees 13 3424 February 9, 2017 at 2:33 am
Last Post: Mirek-Polska



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)