(September 18, 2014 at 12:41 pm)sswhateverlove Wrote: And, although it may not change anything about what we know to be fundamental with regard to the navigation of our environment (say apple falls down), it doesn't mean looking beyond that and trying to understand how those laws fit into the larger scope of all existence isn't a valuable pursuit. Historically it seems, that type of pursuit has actually been what has resulted in expansion of those ideas, allowing the creation of technology that results in the "impossible" becoming "possible".
"What a fantastically dishonest and arrogant statement. Nobody here says "we know everything" about anything. I won't call you optimistic, I'll call you a smug douchebag. I'm still irritated about you coming in here and telling us what we believe, and you're still freaking doing it. Nobody believes we know everything aout consciousness, not even close. You and your strawmen can fuck right off."
I was responding to Rhythm (hence I directed the statement that way) because he said,
"If there's a chapter 2, it doesn't look like it would have anything further to say on the subject."
Was I supposed to interpret that as he think someday we will possibly learn more about consciousness than we currently do?
Well, with a little bit of...reading comprehension, what I got out of that post was that if Rhythm is calling 'chapter 1' how we understand something in our reality, then a "chapter 2" wouldn't have much to say, as it's not in our reality. I highly, highly doubt Rhythm would say we know everything about any topic, let alone one of the most complex and confusing topics of human experience.
So no, I'm still not going to call you optimistic, and you don't get to suggest that
Quote:You can stick with 'no way Jose' and assume we already know everything there is to know about it, but I think that's a bit presumptuous
Nobody says that. At all.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
- Thomas Jefferson