RE: The Original Messages of Religion
September 19, 2014 at 8:59 pm
(This post was last modified: September 19, 2014 at 9:12 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Do I seem like the kind of Joe what wears a veil? That was an idiotic way to begin your thought, but at least you followed through. Yes, I expect others to at least -attempt- to establish the truth claims they make. You don't? Just getting out of bed in the morning must be very tricky for you.
You can tell me (anything) all you like, but that won't immediately lead to my believing you. If, however, you tell me in such a way as I actually do "believe" you - then I'd say you'd have done me a hell of a service, a great benefit (especially considering your claim). Rather than making excuses for your inaction or incompetence - why not just do the work?
-The bolded bits also assume that we need to be led. It puts the impetus on another as though it weren't completely our own business whether or not we do good or evil. It's garbage. I'd rather that people took responsibility for their own actions, and their own pursuit of a good and moral life.
-We aren't perfect, and yet we are not sinners. Not only that, we needn't have anyone pray -for us- (and what good would that do, nada). If we wish to be better than we are, we ought to make that happen ourselves. Again, garbage (and for the same reasons as above).
-Love thy neighbor, meh - sounds nice, unless your neighbor is a dick...and I won't be turning the other cheek anytime soon. That;s a good way to make sure that being a bully pays (you see....ported in this notion is that somebody else, somewhere, somehow, will "punish" said bullies - which aint gonna happen - and if we remove that....then turning the other cheek sounds ignorant and deleterious - which it is). Count me out. Garbage.
Got any more? Of course I;d "fight against" that nonsense. I'd rather live in a world where people take personal responsibility and every tyrant who pops up with a will to do evil doesn't become the Supreme Ayatollah of Whereverland (all while we wait for fairies to "deliver us" - no less). I don't speak for every atheist, but something you ought to know about me is that my main objection to religion is not that it's wrong (we get things wrong all the time, no sweat), but that it would be disgusting if it (or any of it's principles) were true.
You can tell me (anything) all you like, but that won't immediately lead to my believing you. If, however, you tell me in such a way as I actually do "believe" you - then I'd say you'd have done me a hell of a service, a great benefit (especially considering your claim). Rather than making excuses for your inaction or incompetence - why not just do the work?
-The bolded bits also assume that we need to be led. It puts the impetus on another as though it weren't completely our own business whether or not we do good or evil. It's garbage. I'd rather that people took responsibility for their own actions, and their own pursuit of a good and moral life.
-We aren't perfect, and yet we are not sinners. Not only that, we needn't have anyone pray -for us- (and what good would that do, nada). If we wish to be better than we are, we ought to make that happen ourselves. Again, garbage (and for the same reasons as above).
-Love thy neighbor, meh - sounds nice, unless your neighbor is a dick...and I won't be turning the other cheek anytime soon. That;s a good way to make sure that being a bully pays (you see....ported in this notion is that somebody else, somewhere, somehow, will "punish" said bullies - which aint gonna happen - and if we remove that....then turning the other cheek sounds ignorant and deleterious - which it is). Count me out. Garbage.
Got any more? Of course I;d "fight against" that nonsense. I'd rather live in a world where people take personal responsibility and every tyrant who pops up with a will to do evil doesn't become the Supreme Ayatollah of Whereverland (all while we wait for fairies to "deliver us" - no less). I don't speak for every atheist, but something you ought to know about me is that my main objection to religion is not that it's wrong (we get things wrong all the time, no sweat), but that it would be disgusting if it (or any of it's principles) were true.
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