(September 19, 2014 at 8:59 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Do I seem like the kind of Joe what wears a veil? That was an idiotic way to begin your thought, but at least you followed through. Yes, I expect others to at least -attempt- to establish the truth claims they make. You don't? Just getting out of bed in the morning must be very tricky for you.
You can tell me (anything) all you like, but that won't immediately lead to my believing you. If, however, you tell me in such a way as I actually do "believe" you - then I'd say you'd have done me a hell of a service, a great benefit (especially considering your claim). Rather than making excuses for your inaction or incompetence - why not just do the work?
The bolded bits also assume that we need to be led. It puts the impetus on another as though it weren't completely our own business whether or not we do good or evil. It's garbage. I'd rather that people took responsibility for their own actions, and their own pursuit of a good and moral life.
I thought that since atheists fight against the bad qualities of religion or religion entirely that they would at least already know the good qualities of religion so I didn't think there would be a need to provide examples for something they should already know.
Certainly all the atheists on here seem to know the defects of religion, but if they do not bother to learn the good of religion then they are being biased in their research.
The Christian religion from what I know is revolves around people praying to their god to help them overcome the obstacles in their life when they are not venerating him. In Islam and Christianity this god is central to their religion so it is expected that this god would help lead people.
