Rant against anti-atheist agnostics.

[Whateverist]

Don't get me wrong, I'm agnostic too. Very much so in fact.

Really? How certain are you that god doesn't exist?

Not at all, actually. The formal term for it is ignostic. I find the concept of god to be incoherent. No two believers seem to have exactly the same idea. What agreement there is is the byproduct of adopting the dogma of some religious institution.

(Agnostics) think god can't be proven or disproven, and so the best we can do is speculate and take no more position.

Since I'm not at all clear what counts as a god, I am not at all certain what would count as confirming or disproving god. Unless I am just stupid about gods, I don't really think anyone else knows either. Therefore I don't think anyone can prove or disprove gods, but that doesn't matter much. I'm fine with simply not believing. I don't insist on KNOWING no gods exist.

The only thing I have to give up is thinking everyone who chooses to believe in something they call a god is a putz. That isn't really anything I want any way.

I get agnosticism. I don't get anti-atheism. What is that about? Personally I have no more trouble with agnostic theists than I do agnostic atheists. These are my peoples.

I don't get agnosticism, it is anti-pragmatic and makes us nihilistic.

I'm not nihilistic and I'm not a strict pragmatist because I don't believe expedience is always the highest good. But I'm comfortable without certainty. It might not work for you.

Any problem with anti-theism?

Yes. I think it too often willfully misrepresents and overstates its case without regard for developing any real empathy for what it that theists value and why. Knocking down the ridiculous claims of fundamentalist theists is too easy.

There really is nothing you can say to someone who believes in a god and recognizes that it is a choice of faith and not an outcome of reason. An agnostic theist deserves your respect though not your agreement.