RE: Rant against anti-atheist agnostics.
September 23, 2014 at 9:42 am
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2014 at 9:48 am by Mister Agenda.)
(September 21, 2014 at 6:53 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Your debt is paid because you want to receive it. Not because you're worthy. It's a reward that you aren't naturally capable of earning. You think that it's immoral to withhold something only justly received. A contradiction in terms.
An infinite reward (or punishment) for finite acts isn't justice. Justice is when someone gets what they deserve, in proportion to what they've earned.
(September 21, 2014 at 7:09 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Haha nice spin attempt esq.
To get away with that nonsense you'd have to think that humans were capable of perfection. A nice delusion if you can get it, and I'm very happy for you.
So... back in the real world, for anyone wishing to consider it with me, your imperfection is natural. You may be elevated to live guilt free, even with your innate imperfections.
Surely sufficient roasting (or whatever punishment it is you think that God metes out) to atone for one's sins would solve the problem? Everyone goes to hell, for as long as it takes to atone for their sins. The less you sin, the less time you spend in hell, and no one gets into heaven who hasn't paid for their sins themselves.
It's only the permanence of hell that necessitates a 'get out of hell frree' card.
(September 21, 2014 at 10:00 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Esq: you seen to be repeating yourself, so I won't be following.
Bm: as the ideal father, God forgives everything in enabling the child to choose what's unquestionably best for itself. You, the child, are free to choose to self harm all you like. Your dad will be there waiting for you when you come to your senses. What your dad won't do, is reward you for hurting yourself.
So after a few seconds of hell, I'll know there's a God and know I'd rather be anywhere else, and then he'll take me back?
That actually sounds kind of reasonable.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.