RE: The human brain is under a delusion that it is a mind
September 24, 2014 at 10:34 pm
(This post was last modified: September 24, 2014 at 10:50 pm by Jenny A.)
(September 24, 2014 at 8:37 pm)Blackrook Wrote: Agree or disagree: the mind is not "real."
A mind is the delusion the brain has that it exists somewhere that is not purely physical.
A mind is simply the thinking/remembering functions of the brain. It exists. But it is a set of processes not a thing. A computer program exists even though it does not run without an operating system within which to run. So too the mind exists even though it cannot exist without the brain in which to run.
Quote:We are all sacks of meat, with no more inherent value than a side of bacon or a beef patty on a hamburger.
I am purely physical, but that doesn't make me valueless to either myself or other human beings (or my dog for that matter). There is nothing inherently worthless about being a physical being. Damn good thing too as there isn't any evidence of non-physical beings.
Quote:All we have to do to change a mind is pump the brain up with the proper chemicals and neurological impulses.
Certainly you can change a mind that way. But minds are complex. Good luck predicting exactly how you will change it.
Quote:Even personality can be changed with the right drugs and electrical inputs.
Yep. Disease, stroke, and physical trauma can change a personality too.
Quote:So "we" (our minds) don't exist.
The fact that a thing can be altered doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Take the computer program analogy. The program exists even though it can be rewritten.
Quote:Our emotions aren't real.
Everything we think, feel, love, hate isn't real.
Once again all of those things are part of a process and the process most certainly exists.
Quote:Nothing is real, other than the material world.
Well, nothing is known but the material world. However, the mind is part of the material world. Get it?
Quote:And since our experience of the material world is processed through a "mind" that is a delusion, we can't even be sure of that.
The mind is real enough, it just happens to be an ongoing physical process. That my mind exists is the one thing I can be sure of. As Descartes pointed out if I am deluded, I must exist in order to be deluded.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.