(September 24, 2014 at 8:37 pm)Blackrook Wrote: Agree or disagree: the mind is not "real."
Disagree.
(September 24, 2014 at 8:37 pm)Blackrook Wrote: A mind is the delusion the brain has that it exists somewhere that is not purely physical.
No, soul is the delusion the mind has that it exists somewhere that is purely non-physical. Mind is a physical process.
(September 24, 2014 at 8:37 pm)Blackrook Wrote: We are all sacks of meat, with no more inherent value than a side of bacon or a beef patty on a hamburger.
Correct.
(September 24, 2014 at 8:37 pm)Blackrook Wrote: All we have to do to change a mind is pump the brain up with the proper chemicals and neurological impulses.
Even personality can be changed with the right drugs and electrical inputs.
Correct - though identifying those drugs and chemicals is a whole other matter.
(September 24, 2014 at 8:37 pm)Blackrook Wrote: So "we" (our minds) don't exist.
Our emotions aren't real.
Everything we think, feel, love, hate isn't real.
Wrong.
(September 24, 2014 at 8:37 pm)Blackrook Wrote: Nothing is real, other than the material world.
Any evidence that mind is not a part of material world?
(September 24, 2014 at 8:37 pm)Blackrook Wrote: And since our experience of the material world is processed through a "mind" that is a delusion, we can't even be sure of that.
Ahh.. Now we get to the point. Construction of a sloppy materialist position only to refute it.
1. Claim that atheists say only matter is real.
2. Claim that atheists say that therefore things like ideas, beliefs and mind are not real.
3. Claim that all experience (including experiencing evidence) is based on something not real and therefore is not reliable.
4. Claim that atheism is the result of these positions.
5. Therefore, atheism is wrong - Ta-da.
Where is Chad? He takes the same position but he puts is so much more elegantly.
