Unless 'god' is seen as being on-board, this whole debt thing makes no sense for all reasons you say, Brakeman.
In the absence of any acceptably specific definition of a god, I've had to work overtime to meet theists more than half way. The only sense I can give to the idea of a 'god' is as that within us which assembles us and makes it possible for us to acquire a sense of individual identity and choice.
When you think about it, you realize that every single organism assembles itself from scratch. The information is in the DNA but that info is acted upon and you become assembled. If there is a creator 'god' it is literally dispersed in each and everyone of us and every other living thing on the planet. (This is the Devo half of Evo-Devo.) Pretty mind boggling albeit entirely natural of course.
While I am grateful to the mysterious wisdom of life to do this, I fail to see where there is any debt involved. Or any imperfection either, for that matter. Whether it is perfect or not I find it pretty damned amazing and do not feel qualified to judge it as imperfect.
In the absence of any acceptably specific definition of a god, I've had to work overtime to meet theists more than half way. The only sense I can give to the idea of a 'god' is as that within us which assembles us and makes it possible for us to acquire a sense of individual identity and choice.
When you think about it, you realize that every single organism assembles itself from scratch. The information is in the DNA but that info is acted upon and you become assembled. If there is a creator 'god' it is literally dispersed in each and everyone of us and every other living thing on the planet. (This is the Devo half of Evo-Devo.) Pretty mind boggling albeit entirely natural of course.
While I am grateful to the mysterious wisdom of life to do this, I fail to see where there is any debt involved. Or any imperfection either, for that matter. Whether it is perfect or not I find it pretty damned amazing and do not feel qualified to judge it as imperfect.