(October 1, 2014 at 9:59 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(October 1, 2014 at 9:54 pm)Hezekiah Wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by "appraissal of self". I wasn't trying to "praise" myself, I was simply stating that I learned that I am the kind of person who needs to put faith in something in order for me to even derive purpose and/or passion from it. This is in fact the reason why I say, even if there was no god I would still be a Christian.Again, this creates a nonsensical scenario. You would not have faith-and yet...... An appraisal is an assessment. You've repeated here, why I think that your assessment of yourself is inaccurate.
Quote:I would agree with this to a degree, because while I do in fact think the "articles of this faith stand on their own merits" in order for me to have faith in these articles, which are of faith, I must omit the "(no god required)" and believe there is a God for these "articles" to even exist.Why, does Odin have to exist for the Havamal to exist? Articles of faith are, truly and completely- independent of the existence of the deity which they may be built around. Sure, you may no longer say "Oh, I have to follow the ten commandments because god says so and might makes right" - but you could indeed say "Oh, well, I like the ten commandments, I think they're a good idea - Imma run with that".
I see. Well I was assuming faith and religion still exist in the world if god does not exist (which happens to be the case today). And in that case, I would choice faith and relgion. I'm not being inaccurate in my assesment of myself, I'm simply saying from my perspective this is what I would do.
And in Christianity, God has to exist in order for faith to exist. If you don't have faith in God then you're not a Christian. That's all I'm saying.
