(October 2, 2014 at 11:31 am)Chas Wrote:(October 2, 2014 at 8:53 am)Losty Wrote: I don't think you're getting it. I didn't say a fetus is a person. I said it doesn't matter if the fetus is a person or not. People do not have this right so a fetus (regardless if whether or not it's a person) does not have that right either.
No, you are not getting it. At some point during pregnancy, the fetus becomes viable. At that point it is another human being and has rights, too.
Is it OK for a woman to abort 1 hour before delivery? 1 day? 1 week?
When?
I don't think any forms of abortion should be illegal. I think women should be strongly encouraged to give birth to viable fetuses so long as their life is not in danger. I do not, however, believe that they should be forced to do so.
Quote:(October 2, 2014 at 9:00 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Agreed. One of the big things I hear is about how a fetus is a person and how it deserves human rights. Fine, give it all the rights of any person in the US. There is no person in the country that can be forced by law to donate an organ, be the dialysis machine, or the the life support system of another human. Nobody has the legal right to use another person's body for survival without their consent, and neither does any fetus.
That is absurd 'logic'. The fetus is not making a choice. It is helpless and not responsible for even its existence.
Is your argument that a fetus may be aborted right up to the moment of birth?
Should be, no. May be, yes.
I will say for I think the millionth time (not to you my sweet chas but just in general), there's no point in discussing late term abortions. Less than 2% of abortions are late term. If we had real sex education and easy affordable access to birth control and early term abortions, late term abortions would be almost completely eliminated outside of emergency situations where the mother's life is at risk.
