(October 4, 2014 at 1:23 am)Heywood Wrote:(October 4, 2014 at 1:03 am)Luckie Wrote: Eh the southernors loved their free worker society, and wanted people to leave them alone. They didn't voluntarily do anything, except finally surrender. They even threw a tantrum when they lost the presidential election and seceded from the union. They even made their own confederate flag and government.
I agree with Min
The Union Army is who freed the slaves, therefore its not voluntary in the least. What I'm posting here is what I was taught in school. It rings true that more than one thing started the war, and only a gun to their head would stop it, because of how dependent upon slaves the southern culture was.
You have your own perspective...and I don't see anything wrong with your perspective....but yours isn't the only valid perspective. I already gave one perspective that I also think is valid.....but here is another.
Slavery was ended voluntarily in the North. And the South seceded. So technically...Slavery in the United States had ended voluntarily.
The United States then forced another country....the Confederate States....to end slavery. So yeah...Lincoln and the Union Army freed the slaves.....but slaves of another country. When the Southern States were re-admitted to the United States they were now slave free.
There are a lot of ways to look at things....look at Chuck and Chas arguing about the point of the civil war.
Organization like Rawstory and its brainwashed hate zombies like Minimalist don't care about other valid perspectives. They simply want to try to make you hate the same people they hate.
edit: whoops...just remembered that not all slave states seceded...so this other perspective is not historically accurate....sorry.
I don't feel compelled to hate anybody right now
I do feel compelled to make sure our educators are themselves, educated --and teaching approved curriculum. Its important that the truth of a situation be known, and to not have dissention and here say coming from administrators, when history is already been written a hundred fold, and curriculum is federally unified for a reason.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.