satsujin Wrote: And what evidence do you have that God doesn't exist. I realize that you can't present any for this negative proof but that doesn't change the fact that you dont have any evidence. So, in a way, you ARE taking something on faith.
Holy fucking shit, did you actually say this?
So, first of all, I need to stress the bizarre nature of your phrasing here: "Can you prove god doesn't exist? I know you can't prove it, but can you prove it? Since you can't prove it, you're as bad as theists!" All in one statement you ask a stupid question, acknowledge that you know why it's a stupid question, and then bring it on home to its stupid conclusion regardless. Where is the disconnect in your brain, that the second sentence didn't just make you stop and delete the first?
Second of all, Luckie has it right: this is a derpy gotcha question that flies in the face of logic, because you don't believe in every claim until it's proven false, and it doesn't take faith to reject a claim for which there is no evidence. A claim does not gain inherent respectability just by virtue of being made. If we believed every claim until it was proved false, we'd be in the position of believing contradictory claims. In fact, I'll make sure of it for you: I have a pet giraffe. I don't have a pet giraffe. If you're truly in the business of accepting claims as true until proven otherwise, you now believe both of those claims, right? That position seem rational to you?
Additionally, faith is believing in something without evidence. I have no evidence for the existence of god, and therefore believing in it would take faith. Not believing in the claim is not the same thing as believing the opposite claim- you can reject that it's hot outside without automatically believing that it's cold, you know- adding yet another layer of incorrectness to your question, so...
Oh, and since I've just made the claim that your question was stupid, and you have to believe every claim until it's proven false, happily that means you now agree with me, right? I guess your question is retracted, then, on the grounds of being stupid.
I love it when theists present self refuting arguments.
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