(October 4, 2014 at 12:38 pm)satsujin Wrote: "Can you prove god doesn't exist? I know you can't prove it, but can you prove it?
This is not how I phrased it Esquilax.
I know that's not how you phrased it. In fact, I quoted how you did phrase it, so it's not as though I was representing my own spin as though it was yours. However, I reworked it to more blatantly show the problem with the content: you asked a question, acknowledged a sentence later that you knew it was unanswerable, and then proceeded to the conclusion anyway. How is that fair?
Quote: You are the most hostile on this board so far so it's no fun talking to you.
Don't mistake bluntness for hostility: I shall give a bad argument no quarter, especially when it's been answered so many times one could literally write a book collecting those refutations. Outside of this very specific context I'm sure we'd get along fine, but so long as I keep hearing eminently incorrect arguments, I'll keep batting them down.
Quote: I simply stated that since you are taking a stance on a claim because there is no disproving element to that stance, even though there is no disproving element to the other stance, you are also believing something.
You've made an unjustified assumption about atheism here, and that's that atheism necessarily entails belief in the claim that there is no god. It doesn't. Like, it super, super doesn't; in fact, if you actually asked us, you'd find that the majority of us, myself included, will answer that we don't know whether or not there's a god. Nested within that statement is a pretty obvious corollary: we evidently do not believe either way. Like I said, not believing in one thing doesn't automatically mean you're bound to believe the exact opposite.
One could just suspend judgment until evidence comes to light.
Quote: Belief is not the same as knowledge. You don't know there is no God. And the question of God is not some random claim like dinosaur creating shoes.
How is god any different from a random claim like the shoe-making dinosaur, other than that a lot of people believe in it?
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