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God's "perfect" Plan
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RE: God's "perfect" Plan
(June 25, 2010 at 1:04 pm)superstarr Wrote: Many Christians claim that God plans everything in advance according to some parts of their bible. What I find about it, is that his plans are ridiculous. He plans abortions, he plans rape, he plans murderer, he plans poverty, he plans suffering, he planned the Holocaust, he planned 9/11, and all of that. If he planned everything, then that means that we are all brainwashed, and that we are doing what he wants us to do and that we have not free will. What do you all think about this so-called God's "perfect" plan.
Well, we actually don't have acausal free will.

One of the problems with christianity is that it asserts that free will exists and makes us independent of god. A grand cop out scheme that fails to explain the flaming contradiction between two types of messages:
1) free will is preconfigured by god and handed over to humans
2) free will is independent from god and defines our individual essence
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
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God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 25, 2010 at 1:04 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Paul the Human - June 25, 2010 at 1:10 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by chasm - July 1, 2010 at 1:52 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shinylight - June 25, 2010 at 1:15 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Mr Camel - June 25, 2010 at 1:19 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - June 25, 2010 at 1:32 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Welsh cake - June 25, 2010 at 1:49 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Purple Rabbit - June 25, 2010 at 2:29 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Darwinian - June 25, 2010 at 2:43 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 25, 2010 at 4:13 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Jaysyn - June 25, 2010 at 4:17 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by tavarish - June 25, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 25, 2010 at 5:35 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Zen Badger - June 26, 2010 at 3:27 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 25, 2010 at 4:52 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by KichigaiNeko - June 26, 2010 at 3:39 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by annatar - June 25, 2010 at 4:41 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 25, 2010 at 10:55 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 26, 2010 at 12:12 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shell B - June 26, 2010 at 1:31 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shell B - June 26, 2010 at 9:42 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Purple Rabbit - June 26, 2010 at 3:31 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 26, 2010 at 4:40 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - June 25, 2010 at 11:16 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - June 26, 2010 at 2:22 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 26, 2010 at 3:47 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - June 26, 2010 at 4:00 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Purple Rabbit - June 26, 2010 at 4:22 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Purple Rabbit - June 26, 2010 at 5:01 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 26, 2010 at 7:19 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 27, 2010 at 1:23 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shell B - June 26, 2010 at 7:22 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 27, 2010 at 1:04 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Purple Rabbit - June 27, 2010 at 6:15 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shell B - June 27, 2010 at 9:29 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Autumnlicious - June 26, 2010 at 7:49 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - June 27, 2010 at 1:42 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Mr Camel - June 27, 2010 at 4:22 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 27, 2010 at 8:36 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Mr Camel - June 27, 2010 at 9:14 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 28, 2010 at 2:20 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Purple Rabbit - June 30, 2010 at 2:47 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - June 27, 2010 at 8:39 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by fr0d0 - June 28, 2010 at 3:20 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Mr Camel - June 28, 2010 at 3:59 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by tackattack - July 1, 2010 at 12:24 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - July 1, 2010 at 4:23 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Zen Badger - July 1, 2010 at 6:13 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - July 1, 2010 at 12:53 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 28, 2010 at 3:58 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shell B - June 28, 2010 at 4:08 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 28, 2010 at 6:12 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - July 1, 2010 at 2:50 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - July 1, 2010 at 1:56 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by annatar - July 1, 2010 at 2:06 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - July 1, 2010 at 2:50 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by annatar - July 1, 2010 at 3:16 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - July 1, 2010 at 4:24 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by theophilus - July 2, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - July 2, 2010 at 2:20 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by fr0d0 - July 3, 2010 at 5:23 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shinylight - July 2, 2010 at 12:16 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - July 2, 2010 at 12:26 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Zen Badger - July 3, 2010 at 6:47 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by fr0d0 - July 3, 2010 at 2:15 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by chatpilot - July 3, 2010 at 10:13 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - July 3, 2010 at 2:35 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by chatpilot - July 3, 2010 at 5:45 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by fr0d0 - July 3, 2010 at 5:51 pm

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