Jesus plan AND Obama's fault

[reverendjeremiah]

http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?156456-P...&p=2021722

This is a thread on Rapture Ready about the missionaries who were killed by Somali pirates. Many of them are thrilled that there fellow Christians were martyred and say that it is all part of Gods mysterious plan. Some also blame Obama for the pirate attack instead of the pirates who did the murdering.

Here are some quotes

-carol1948

It is so amazing how our God works. These people had been serving our Lord in this way since 2004 and I had never heard of them. Now, the Lord takes them home and the whole world hears of them and their/His work. Even as we are saddened by this occurrence we know that it is our LORD'S perfect will and timing. And we pray too that their families be comforted as only our LORD can comfort.

and then this one:

- Acts5:41

I hope I get killed for Jesus.

We don't know what they endured, or might have had they lived. Right now they're in Heaven, wearing a martyrs crown, living Revelation 21:4.

Not only that, but people like me are going to be even more determined to hand out as many Bibles as possible.

and then this one:

-WVBORN56

Sean Hannity was just talking about this a few minutes ago on he TV show on Fox. He made the statement had this occured under President Reagan the Somalian ship would have been blown out of the water and wondered why in the 21st century why do we still have pirates. He said under Reagan it was peace thru strength and under Obama it is peace thru weakness. The worlds nations do as they please without fear of repercussion under this President. He has set our foreign policy back a hundred years.

My questions are: How can they say it is all part of gods plan, but blame Obama for it happening? How can they get mad at Obama who had nothing to do with it, but praise a god who actually could have stopped it? Why are they mad at Obama and not at god? If it is gods plan, then Obama had no choice but to do as god commanded, and if that is true then why is Obama being blamed and not god? How does freewill and gods plan fit into this discussion without contradicting each other?

[Skipper]

I voted, "There is no god and it was the pirates fault.".

[Minimalist]

Reading those comments helps me understand that xtians are the stupidest fucks going.

[reverendjeremiah]

Reading those comments helps me understand that xtians are the stupidest fucks going.

I think the Muslim fundies are giving the christian fundies a run for their money in that situation.

[Minimalist]

Yeah but the muslims have been in the Dark Ages for centuries. What excuse do xtians have for still being morons in the enlightened West?

[reverendjeremiah]

Yeah but the muslims have been in the Dark Ages for centuries. What excuse do xtians have for still being morons in the enlightened West?

Point taken and I admit defeat.. its hard to argue against that.

[Spectrum]

*Is not surprised.

[Faith No More]

I found this reply also pretty strange.

I feel so terrible about it. Maybe if I'd have prayed harder for them they wouldn't be dead by now.

[reverendjeremiah]

I found this reply also pretty strange.

I feel so terrible about it. Maybe if I'd have prayed harder for them they wouldn't be dead by now.

Its scarry what could be flosting in the minds of your typical Rapture Ready members mind.. these people give me the creeps most of the times..and it takes a lot to do that to me. Just look at their replies.. these people are cultishly fanatical.

[Rayaan]

How does freewill and gods plan fit into this discussion without contradicting each other?

I'd have to be God to know what His plans are.

God knows what I'm going to do, but this does not mean that He compels me to do something nor does He take away my free will in performing such an action. I don't even *know* what God knows about my actions. Therefore, I cannot possibly blame or attribute all my actions to God instead of myself.