RE: God's "perfect" Plan
June 25, 2010 at 5:35 pm
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2010 at 5:46 pm by Godscreated.)
(June 25, 2010 at 4:49 pm)tavarish Wrote:(June 25, 2010 at 4:13 pm)Godschild Wrote: God's plan is going perfectly He is letting history run it's course with all the evil and love that man allows to control our lives through the freewill man has and without His interference in our choices. When evil has run its depraved course God will bring it to its end and set up His eternal Kingdom of which we all will be a part of some with Him and some in hell "the choice is ours and ours alone."
This is not an attempt to get anyone to believe in God it's a statement of what I believe to be true. I know you all think this fundie is delusional but time will be the ultimate judge of that.
Quote:You are right, I do think you're delusional, but some people want to be slaves and be subservient to an entity who needs worship. Good luck with all of that, I'm sure heaven will be a great place. It's also great that you have no issue condemning everyone who doesn't buy into your superstitious intolerant bullshit. I don't know of a more in-your-face contradiction.
I'm not condemning anyone I have no right or power to do such a thing. You are the only one who has the right or power to condemn yourself. God will allow you your choice.
Quote:Belief isn't a choice. Can you choose to believe in dragons? How about believe that you are a figment of my imagination?
Yes to both but here's a hint one is real and one isn't it's your choice.
Quote:Finally, when's this rapture supposed to take place? It would be an awful shame if I missed it.
Not sure what you are talking about I've never read about a rapture in scripture please enlighten me.
However if you are eluding to the second coming of Christ don't worry you want miss that!!!
(June 25, 2010 at 4:52 pm)superstarr Wrote: [quote='Godschild' pid='76675' dateline='1277496795']
Why do you all even care about Gods perfect plan, you do not believe in the claim that He exists, it can only be understood by those who believe in the God of creation. God's plan is perfect within His own will. His will is not meant to control people it is however ultimately to bring peace to His creation to rid it of the evil that sin brought into His creation. The freewill you all want to so easily dismiss was given to His entire creation of beings and in that freewill there came jealousy and then hatered and this lead to not obeying God thus sin and the evil it brings.
Yes God knew before He created the universe that the fall of man would corrupt the creation however He desired to love man and have mans love returned to Him unconditionally, there was only one way He could accomplish this, that was to give mankind the freedom to choose how they desired to live their lives "freewill". Yes God would prefer that all humans live by His will, because He knows the better life it will bring to us, the choice is ours (for me I've decided to choose God's will for myself) and the atheist on this site have made it very clear you do not believe the claim that God exists so in that you have chosen to disobey God. The reason I believe that God knows what's best for our lives He is omniscient and can see down through the pages of history and see the results of our choices upon our lives.
God's plan is going perfectly He is letting history run it's course with all the evil and love that man allows to control our lives through the freewill man has and without His interference in our choices. When evil has run its depraved course God will bring it to its end and set up His eternal Kingdom of which we all will be a part of some with Him and some in hell "the choice is ours and ours alone."
This is not an attempt to get anyone to believe in God it's a statement of what I believe to be true. I know you all think this fundie is delusional but time will be the ultimate judge of that.
Quote:Yet, your bible clearly states that God plans everyone's life from birth to death. Which means that you have no control over your life because he already has it planned.
Please show me the scriptures for your statement.
Quote:It's also funny because Christians somehhow think that there's a plan, yet, they don't know what it is. How would they know that there is even a plan if they can't even show how his plan is even possible. His so-called, "plan" is contradictory.
I believe I explained His plan in the above statement. If what you say about christians not knowing His plan, is true, then how is it you know His plan and can call it contradictory?
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
