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God's "perfect" Plan
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RE: God's "perfect" Plan
(June 25, 2010 at 10:55 pm)superstarr Wrote: "You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day of my life before I began to breathe. Every day was recorded in your book!" [Psalm 139:16]

The "Idea" of him having a plan is odd. Why? Because basically the idea of having any plan makes a little something called "prayer" become useless. I think contradictory wasn't a good word to use, but the idea of having a plan clearly makes prayer useless waste of time. Yet, people state that his plan and prayer are part of christianity, but they can see that it doesn't work. Rather, none of them have to be right because each make the other impossible.

superstarr I'm not sure which translation you are using the three I use are NIV, English Standard Version and New American Standard which is recognised as the best literial translation. None of them say anything about God's planning of ones life in Psalm 139:16.
The NAS translates the the verse "Thine eyes have seen my unformed substance;
And in Thy book they were all written,
The days that were ordained for me,
When as yet there was not one of them."
This verse states that God knew King David before he was born and that He knew the number of days he would live. The second line could mean that God had already written down Davids life even before he lived his life and this pertains to Gods omniscience not planning out his life. The other two versions read the same as the NAS. If you are using a paraphrase Bible you might want to get an actual translation paraphrased Bibles are a good read but not the best choice for study.

Prayer is a way of learning more about God and learning more about oneself, prayer is about sacrifice, prayer is growing in a relationship with God, prayer is so much more than asking God for things even though that is part of prayer. Asking God about things in life, in His word and ect. are much more fulfilling.

I will say this God has plans for the lives of people who come to accept His Son as their savior but even this does not mean God has planned every day of ones life. You do have freewill whither you like it or not.
(June 25, 2010 at 11:16 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:God's plan is going perfectly He is letting history run it's course


Funny thing about that. History will do what it will without regard to your god. Your assertion of god having a 'plan' does not make it true.

BTW,

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/06/24/16...after.html

Quote: FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- A Fort Lauderdale man is accused of striking and shaking a year-old boy who later died at the hospital, police said Wednesday.

Ian Arnold, 22, is charged with aggravated child abuse, and homicide charges are possible, pending the

Did your 'god' have a 'plan' for this child, too?


If he did....fuck god.

Min isn't that what I said that God will let history run its course. That is part of His plan.
As for the baby killer I hope he gets the death penalty if Florida has one. No that was not what God wanted for either the baby or his killer that is the price we have to endure because of sin. It does not seem fair to me either but having sin and freewill in this world inevitably leads to great sorry and terrible horror.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Messages In This Thread
God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 25, 2010 at 1:04 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Paul the Human - June 25, 2010 at 1:10 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by chasm - July 1, 2010 at 1:52 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shinylight - June 25, 2010 at 1:15 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Mr Camel - June 25, 2010 at 1:19 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - June 25, 2010 at 1:32 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Welsh cake - June 25, 2010 at 1:49 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Purple Rabbit - June 25, 2010 at 2:29 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Darwinian - June 25, 2010 at 2:43 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 25, 2010 at 4:13 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Jaysyn - June 25, 2010 at 4:17 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by tavarish - June 25, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 25, 2010 at 5:35 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Zen Badger - June 26, 2010 at 3:27 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 25, 2010 at 4:52 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by KichigaiNeko - June 26, 2010 at 3:39 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by annatar - June 25, 2010 at 4:41 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 25, 2010 at 10:55 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 26, 2010 at 12:12 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shell B - June 26, 2010 at 1:31 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shell B - June 26, 2010 at 9:42 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Purple Rabbit - June 26, 2010 at 3:31 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 26, 2010 at 4:40 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - June 25, 2010 at 11:16 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - June 26, 2010 at 2:22 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 26, 2010 at 3:47 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - June 26, 2010 at 4:00 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Purple Rabbit - June 26, 2010 at 4:22 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Purple Rabbit - June 26, 2010 at 5:01 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 26, 2010 at 7:19 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 27, 2010 at 1:23 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shell B - June 26, 2010 at 7:22 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 27, 2010 at 1:04 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Purple Rabbit - June 27, 2010 at 6:15 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shell B - June 27, 2010 at 9:29 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Autumnlicious - June 26, 2010 at 7:49 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - June 27, 2010 at 1:42 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Mr Camel - June 27, 2010 at 4:22 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 27, 2010 at 8:36 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Mr Camel - June 27, 2010 at 9:14 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 28, 2010 at 2:20 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Purple Rabbit - June 30, 2010 at 2:47 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - June 27, 2010 at 8:39 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by fr0d0 - June 28, 2010 at 3:20 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Mr Camel - June 28, 2010 at 3:59 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by tackattack - July 1, 2010 at 12:24 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - July 1, 2010 at 4:23 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Zen Badger - July 1, 2010 at 6:13 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - July 1, 2010 at 12:53 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - June 28, 2010 at 3:58 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shell B - June 28, 2010 at 4:08 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - June 28, 2010 at 6:12 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Godschild - July 1, 2010 at 2:50 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - July 1, 2010 at 1:56 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by annatar - July 1, 2010 at 2:06 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - July 1, 2010 at 2:50 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by annatar - July 1, 2010 at 3:16 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - July 1, 2010 at 4:24 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by theophilus - July 2, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by superstarr - July 2, 2010 at 2:20 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by fr0d0 - July 3, 2010 at 5:23 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Shinylight - July 2, 2010 at 12:16 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - July 2, 2010 at 12:26 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Zen Badger - July 3, 2010 at 6:47 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by fr0d0 - July 3, 2010 at 2:15 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by chatpilot - July 3, 2010 at 10:13 am
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by Minimalist - July 3, 2010 at 2:35 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by chatpilot - July 3, 2010 at 5:45 pm
RE: God's "perfect" Plan - by fr0d0 - July 3, 2010 at 5:51 pm

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